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Sawyer Squeeze freezing

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Jerry Adams BPL Member
PostedMay 19, 2012 at 8:18 am

Okay, I got my Sawyer Squeeze. Unfortunately, it says if it freezes you have to discard it.

If I have to keep it from freezing, it is quite limiting because maybe 1/4 my trips go below freezing at some point.

I emailed them and they replied:

"The fibers are made of a polysyphonic extrusion. It is in the nylon family but much tougher. If a droplet was to freeze inside of one of the filters 0.1 micron holes can it expand and stretch the hole size? We don't know and there is no way to test it conclusively. So our position is to play it safe and say no freezing. Allowing the filter to freeze will void the warranty. If it is accidentally frozen then we suggest using it until you get home and can replace it."

Nylon is a bit stretchy, so it doesn't seem like it should be a problem.

The problem with broken water pipes, is when a run of pipe freezes from one point to a closed point, like a faucet. It expands down the run, and when it gets to the faucet there's considerable pressure and it can break. If you have a droplet inside a pipe, it's not a problem.

If the 0.1 micron hole got expanded to 0.2 microns, who cares?

Besides, this is all placebo anyway, water doesn't need to be treated : )

It seems like this could be tested. Freeze a filter. Look at holes with microscope.

Or take a solution with flourescent particles that are 0.2 microns and see how many get through.

Compare filter that was frozen with one that wasn't.

Dale Wambaugh BPL Member
PostedMay 19, 2012 at 9:07 am

Something I hadn't considered. I assume freezing could damage other filter designs. Perhaps blow as much water out as possible? I guess I have a new sleeping companion :)

Daniel Cox BPL Member
PostedMay 19, 2012 at 9:14 am

Mine accidentally froze once as well. I haven't replaced it yet, and am on the fence about it…it was in my garage one night in storage 3 months after its last use. However another poster in another thread about freezing filters says he cut open a clogged Katadyn after a year on the shelf and found water in it…so I guess they never actually dry completely.

As for temps on trips… I'd suggest sleeping with it in the foot of your bag at night and carrying it away from external pockets when walking if it's below freezing.

Edit: I emailed Sawyer about it when mid froze and got much the same response- replace it.

Dale Wambaugh BPL Member
PostedMay 19, 2012 at 9:21 am

I wonder if a shot of high proof booze would act as antifreeze? A little Everclear for the filter and some more for me :) BTW, don't even think about using denatured alcohol.

Daniel Cox BPL Member
PostedMay 19, 2012 at 9:31 am

I had never thought of that. "Rinsing" the filter with an ounce or two of everclear might displace enough water to prevent freeze damage. Might be a good option for long-term home storage. I'd want to ask Sawyer about the effects of alcohol on the element first though.

In the field it seems like a lot of hassle when I can just unclip it from the line, shake it out and toss it in a plastic baggie at my feet for the night. Unless you just can't stand something in the bag with you at night.

PostedMay 19, 2012 at 9:32 am

All filters can break with freezing. I have cracked an MSR microwerks as well as a couple others. This is not specific to the squeeze. Have to bag it up and throw it in your sleep gear. Not that big of a deal.

Dale Wambaugh BPL Member
PostedMay 19, 2012 at 10:02 am

Daniel wrote,

"I'd want to ask Sawyer about the effects of alcohol on the element first though."

I wonder about that too, but I wouldn't expect more than a "safe" answer from the manufacturer. Nylon should be just fine with ethanol.

The baggie/sleeping bag method is low tech and cheap. It won't snore, so I would be okay sharing my bed with it :)

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