Hilleberg Tent thread

[David Ure]

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[Stephen M]

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[Derek Weeks]

So I was windering about changing out the cord on my Hillerberg to Lawson reflective Glowire is there any disadvantages compared to Hillerberg cord? Reason for changing is wanting a more reflective cord for my son while playing at night is not tripping on them and I also like more of a reflective cord then Hilleberg uses.

Lawson reflective Glowire
Diameter: 3mm (1/8"), Weight: 3.75oz /106 grams per 50', Break Strength: 400Lbs

I tried lineLoc with Lawson Glowire and they seam to work.

Thanks!

[Stephen M]

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[Derek Weeks]

My family and I are loving the Kaitum it's a perfect match for us…thanks!

Yeah, the Lawson cord may be a little slicker, but it's not as slick as the Iron wire and the Glow wire seems to hold in the Linlocks. I'm taking it out this week and will see if the cord and Linlocks holdup.

Thanks Stephen!

[Stuart .]

Now Lawson offers his cord in 3mm i say it's worth a try. 2mm cord was definitely too narrow for Hillie's linelocks.

You may want to keep the stock cord for the end guy lines- at least on a trial basis- as in most conditions those are the ones that are most critical to keeping a tunnel tent upright. If you don't get any slippage on the lateral guy lines, then try swapping everyone out, but take some of the Hillie cord along just in case.

A couple of years ago I was using a cuben SoloMid with aftermarket cordage. In consistent winds it held fine, but when the gusts came in and battered the head end, it kept collapsing on me until I tied additional knots in the cord so it couldn't slip.

[Stephen M]

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[Logan T]

I was really starting to think I was going to make it through my entire backpacking career without catching the Hilleberg bug and then Stephen has to start going off about the Enan :) Damn you!

In seriousness I really like the look of it and I want one despite having a difficult time justifying the price currently. However I am contemplating a move to Michigan for work so I could see the Enan making its way into arsenal for the 3 seasons of winter they have up there.

Stephen I'm looking forward to hearing your thoughts when you get it!

[Stuart .]

That should have been a straightforward trip, Stephen, but mother nature had other plans. I think we both learned a lot. That Southern Sun screwed up your consolation burger afterwards was pretty much in line with everything else on that trip.

Like others, I'm very interested to hear your thoughts about the Enan once you receive it. For all the product testing that Hilleberg have put into it, there's very little information available in the public domain today. The video from Cotswold Outdoor shows how easy it is to pitch – more so than the Akto. I'm pleased to see that Hilleberg reverted back to the pole cups found on the Red and Black Series tents – I wasn't a fan of the grommet setup on the Anjan and Rogen. We'll see if the lack of a roof vent makes a difference in reality. That new shade of green seems very dark though. I couldn't see myself using one without the yellow inner to cheer it up.

[Stephen M]

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[Derek Weeks]

Great idea about keeping some of the old cord just incase. I did change it all out, but will keep extra in the stuff sack. I had planned on keeping the Hilleberg cord anyways.

Thanks agin!!

[BlackHatGuy]

"I too am looking forward to the Enan, I will reserve judgment until it's has seen rigorous basement testing, as won't pitch it outside until I am sure it's a keeper."

I guess I just don't see what the Enan offers that the Moment DW doesn't. The Moment DW is not only less than half the price, it has 3" more headroom, and with a crossing pole you can make it freestanding.

I still wish they made the Unna about a pound and a half lighter! :-)

[Stephen M]

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[BlackHatGuy]

"I tested out the Moment DW Doug and found the inner too small (same with the Notch)
I might have the same issue with the Enan."

I'd be surprised if you don't, since it seems to have about the same specs as the Moment DW, with the DW being taller and, if I remember correctly, an inch wider at its widest point.

[Stephen M]

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[Doug Smith]

I'll be interested to read the Enan reviews. I doubt it would sway me from an Akto or Unna, but I'm curious about the Enan materials and longevity. To me, the #1 most important aspect of Hilleberg tents are their durability. Second would be a close tie of livability and ease of use. As Hilleberg continue to go lighter and lighter in materials, to get into the UL market, I just hope their durability doesn't take to big a hit.

I have no problem buying a BA Copper Spur, or similar, if I want light weight and am not concerned about materials lasting a long time. But if I don't want to stress over dog claws or setting up on granite without a footprint, I reach for a Hilleberg. I hope their new light tents can at least somewhat live up to that.

[Nic Gross]

I just picked up a tan Staika.

In regards to facing into the wind, the tunnel tents look straight forward. Does it really matter that much with the domes? The ends look a little stronger than the sides, but I haven't had it out in strong wind yet. Any experience with this?

I'm excited to hear that Hilleberg is coming out with a mesh inner for the Staika sometime soon.

I'm also interested to hear how the Enan works out. I wonder if changing out some of the accessories could drop it below 2 pounds.

[Doug Smith]

I could be wrong, but I'd guess out of their entire line-up, your Staika is one of the few tents that matter least how you have it facing. Just from photos alone, it appears very well designs from getting strong winds from any direction.

[Charles Jennings]

Disclaimer: I am an authorized Hilleberg Retailer.

Stephen should have the Enan in his possession by now, along with a couple of other customers of mine, who are headed to Patagonia with their new Enans, incidently. I am anxious to hear how they fared with the Enan in those conditions.

I purchased a green one for myself. One thing that I have noticed is the the green has changed to a dark green, almost black. I like it because it is quite stealthy.

Another thing I noticed about the Enan is it is a heck of a lot easier and faster to set up than the Akto. I never could get a good taut pitch without wrinkles when setting up the Akto.

I am 6'1" and the Enan has plenty of length for me. I plan on using it above treeline in the Winds, also in the Uintas.

I appreciate that the outer fabric goes all the way to the ground, so that when the driving rains occur, the inner will stay dry. When guyed out on the sides, the Enan seems quite stable.

Yes Hilleberg dropped the weight by going to Kerlon 600 (incidentally, is very expensive to make, according to Petra), thus, the $625 price tag.

It will be my go-to solo shelter. I like the light-weight and the small package, but it possesses the Hilleberg standard of durability.

[David .]

Thanks Charles for the quick shipping. Looking forward to using the Enan in Patagoina where I expect we will have some high winds at times. I will definitely report back.

[Richie S]

Ok, I pulled the trigger on an Enan – just some early playing around this afternoon ahead of a trip next month. 2llb 7oz on the scale, but that includes manual and all sorts of other bits of paperwork.

Replacing the tent, pole and stake bags, removing the pole splint and chancing up the pegs for wire Ti stakes takes it down to 2llb 4oz.

Talking of which, what's the opinion on taking the pole repair splint along with you? I typically don't for short trips where I could easily walk out if I had to.

[Eric Blumensaadt]

Camp Saver has a lot of Hilleberg tents listed. I dunno if they are on sale but likely so if they are on that site.

[Stuart .]

Prices for Hilleberg on Campsaver are not discounted. That would be a breach of the distributor agreement. Similarly, Hilleberg is excluded from their 20% off sale.

[r m]

Last year on a snow camping trip I somehow lost a pole. Either I had never took it with me, or it had slid away. It was one of the two more important ones in a jannu. So we pitched under a tree branch, stuck some tall sticks in the snow and tied the guy lines to which ever gave the best angle. Inside it was fine.

Another time years ago I had forgotten to pack the pole for a single pole fin style tent, running a rope above the tent I tied the the guy lines along the top ridge to the rope.

Now that I think about it, I might stop bringing at least some of the repair kit (iirc I have two sleeves.

[Richie S]

My line of thinking it's that I could probably muster enough of a temporary repair with the rest of my gear to cover me through a night. I suppose it's worth taking along on an expedition.

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