Hilleberg Tent thread

[Stephen M]

They lowered the fly a bit, it is still about 5-6 inches off the ground.

[David .]

I have a backpacking trip in Patagonia at the end of March and was hoping to give the Enan a try for that tip. Is there any word on the official release date for the tent? I've seen mention of "April" but not sure if that is just an estimate.

[Stephen M]

Even if it was released in time it might
be prudent to try it on a few trips close to home first.

[Eric Blumensaadt]

I do get the point that this IS a Hilleberg thread and that I'm overly enthusiastic about Tarptent products. Mea culpa.

But the point that I keep mentioning is that the AKTO and ENAN can be made into true 4 season tents with under-fly crossing poles as I have done.

* So… I'll post no more praise of Tarptent or any TT photos. And I apologize for stepping on the thread theme.

In my opinion I think Hilleberg makes tents and tent designs of the very highest quality. If I had to do a Greenland or Canadian barren lands expedition I'd be getting a Hilleberg tent without a doubt just for the safety they offer.

[Stephen M]

Seriously Eric you should start a Tarp Tent Owners thread, the one on
Outdoorsmagic has a lot of good info.

Keep up the good work.

[Dennis Lee]

With two little children, my wife an I can only dream of BPL. As far as tent goes, we tend to take Nallo 4 GT over our BA Copper Spur4, even in summer although the BA Copper Spur is cooler and lighter – well.. Hilleberg just looks better! LOL But seriously the vestibule on the Nallo4 GT is hard to give up even if it means a couple more pounds, especially with kids. I am thoroughly happy with our Nallo as it offers our family functionality and security with relatively light weight. The only possible problem is finding a spot, especially in the Sierra, but I am sure we can manage to put it up one way or another. Here are some photos and videos.

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[Stephen M]

I think GT Vestibules are so worth
the extra weight and the extra time for site selectoon when
they tent is shared.

[James Cahill]

Very impressed that you were able to take your kids out on a winter trip like that! Looks like a lot of fun, even if it was colder than you expected.

[Dennis Lee]

The tent made it happen. Well… sort of. My wife doesn't like the cold weather and not a fan of winter camping. I told her to imagine our pretty red tent on a snowfield..lol. The kids were double bagged (we put them in their mummies and then into a double bag), and we used up 22 oz fuel in an overnighter to make hot waters. They still complained a bit, but we are from so. California. It was fairly calm so we left the vestibule door and even the mesh inner wide opened, but we still had quite a bit of condensation from 4 of us. I was hoping for more snow (there were about 2'), but overall it was really fun for everyone. Sorry for a mini trip report but at least the Hilleberg Nallo review is in the mix. Thumbs up from our family!

[jimmer ultralight]

Where was that top photo by the lake taken?

[Dennis Lee]

It was taken at Lake Ellen Wilson in Glacier National Park. There was a waterfall on the opposite side of the lake!

[jimmer ultralight]

Pretty pic!

[Stuart .]

Hilleberg have just published the 2015 Handbook in PDF format on their website at

http://docs.hilleberg.net/Hilleberg2014Handbook-US.pdf

They've done a great job updating the dimensional diagrams so you can see not only maximum height and width, but also how much taper exists. This is a big improvement over previous years, and should help customers make more informed decisions. That's especially true with the Red and Yellow Label tents. Nicely done folks.

Secondly, they are really pushing the sand flysheet pics this year. As they should. I saw one up close and personal for the first time yesterday, and I really like it. The green flysheet has darkened significantly in the last year or so, and despite a yellow inner, it makes for a cool tone in overcast conditions. Red in contrast is always in your face warm, best for white-out conditions. Sand provides a stealthy colour with a neutral to slightly warm tone. For comparison, it's very similar in colour to MLD's olive brown silnylon, perhaps just a little lighter but not significantly.

[Stephen M]

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[David Ure]

I have noticed that there has been significant weight gain over time for their most popular models. Perhaps more features have been added now that they have the lighter weight line of shelters. Not sure, however.

[Stuart .]

Dave – the published weights increased two or three years ago, and some were pretty significant. Most shelters were revised up between 3-8oz depending on capacity. However, the discrepancy existed before. I remember the Soulo I bought in late 2011 was a good 6oz heavier than the published weight, so the handbook was just catching up with reality.

I haven't seen too many design changes to existing models since the second version of the Saivo was introduced. The Akto inner tent changed about 2 years ago, but that's about all I've noticed. New suppliers perhaps?

The newly published dimensions are in many cases narrower than in previous years, by an inch or two.

Edit: Compared with previous catalogues, I see that most of the dimensions remain the same in cm, but they appear to have rounded down the conversion to inches to the lower number.

[David Ure]

I haven't browsed the Hilleberg site in a while but I was frankly shocked at the pricing. A couple of years ago, Petra made the claim that the increase in prices was due to the falling US dollar. Given the current strength of the USD, I would not have expected to see another increase. Ah well.

[Stephen M]

Nm

[David Ure]

Indeed. But still worth the price for serious 4 season treks.

[Stephen M]

Nm

[Pierre Descoteaux]

Hello, I'm in the process of making my own cuben nammatj 3 tent… Any one has any knowledge of the size of the rear and front vents? Height front the ground, width, length, length of the curved 3D part, shape of the zippered opening, type of zips used, is it backed up by mesh?
This info would help me greatly! And steer me in the right direction.
Thank you very much.
Pierre

[Warren]

Eric – I have an Akto and have been very interested in your x-pole option. Thanks for telling us about it and please keep posting. I think your comments are appropriate for this thread. Thanks again.

Dave U. – I too am shocked at the pricing. There isn't much inflation and there hasn't been for some years, here or in Europe, and people's pay isn't going up, so how is an annual 10% increase in price justified?

– Warren

[Patagonia Bound]

This is a great thread. I'm looking at getting the Nammatj for myself and my husband to use on extended backpacking trips. It will mostly be used just for the two of us (with our 60 pound dog joining us occasionally) – but we are nevertheless considering getting the 3 person version to ensure plenty of room for our gear and to cook in bad weather.

Any insights on this issue? Nammatj 2 users – does that vestibule feel cramped? Is the 3 person version worth the extra weight (approx 11 oz) for the added space?

Thanks in advance!

[Stuart Murphy]

I have never used a Hilleberg. Will probably buy one one day. But some things about them annoy me:

* guy ropes non reflective

* floors are black (usually covered by matts, but grey is nicer to live with/easier to spot damage)

* the guy points are possibly not wide enough (resulting in noticeable tension between guy points that is not unifrom across the tent – perhaps worst on Nammatj with guys angled towards ends of tents)

* Hlleberg appear to be arrogant in their "rice fixing" (eg. not allowing retailers to sell below RRP) and general price increasesd (outstripping inflation).

* maybe they are even a little overhyped?

* new green colour is too dark (who wants a black tent lol) which leaves only the sand unless you want safety red (roll eyes)

Juts sayin'

Cheers
Stuart

[Dennis Lee]

I bought it used so I really didn't have a choice, but I like our red tent to go along with my red boots, red snow shoes and shovel (I think that's all the reds I've got). It does feel a little hot during summer at least psychologically. And everyone in the family has tripped over a guyline at least once, but that's because we're clumsy with two children.

You can see our safety red giant (we have the nallo 4 gt) miles away so if you're looking for a solitude, it will help you to run away too lol

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