Apr 13, 2012 at 10:18 am #1288666
Has been officially posted. It's currently "on sale" for 205 and weighs 25 ounces with pad and stays.
Looks nice…kinda pricey. I bet it's incredibly comfortable. Only available in Medium for the time being.Apr 13, 2012 at 10:31 am #1866889
I think it looks great and is a more than reasonable price when compared to the HMG Porter, ULA OHM 2.0, etc.Apr 13, 2012 at 10:33 am #1866890
Yes. Compared to HMG, I agree. It's just a big jump from their last model.
Interesting to note is that the pack itself weighs only 16.4 ounces after taking out removable stays and detachable hib belt but keeping the torso pad.
I think the pack looks amazing, wish I could try it on.Apr 13, 2012 at 10:58 am #1866900
I agree – trying on would be nice instead of ordering and having to potentially return.
Pack does look really well designed.Apr 13, 2012 at 11:17 am #1866908
Looks nice. The hipbelt looks comfy. Not really sure about the zippered pocket on the lid though.Apr 13, 2012 at 12:29 pm #1866929
I'm wondering about the durability of the bungee compression system and how effective it will be in compressing the load. I'm not sure I buy into the lid, either. In any case, I'm looking forward to the reviews!Apr 13, 2012 at 12:39 pm #1866933
Chad “Stick” PoindexterParticipant
@stickLocale: Wet & Humid Southeast....
The pack body is actually listed at 14.4 oz (that is without the hip belt, SitLight pad and the stays).
Anyway, it is a very nice looking pack but I wish the top lid was simply a piece of material that folded over to make a lid rather than a zippered pocket. I am glad that the front pocket is straight across too rather than angled like on the Kumo (not sure what that is supposed to be about…)Apr 13, 2012 at 4:27 pm #1867012
I dont see the price jump as that big of a problem. I spent about that much for my old gorilla after adding hipbelt pockets. Now they are already there. I just ordered a new one and am super stoked.Apr 13, 2012 at 4:57 pm #1867023
Please post impressions when you get it!!!Apr 13, 2012 at 5:28 pm #1867027
@empacitatorLocale: Western Australia
I'm a massive fan of the original Gorilla- I bought it after I read the Highly Recommended review from BPL.
Only problem is that I find it very hard to fault, so how do I justify purchasing the new one? ;)Apr 13, 2012 at 6:05 pm #1867040
I love my gorilla but have an on again off again spat with the shoulder pads. Hoping the new one solves my issues.Apr 14, 2012 at 7:43 am #1867148
Does the old Gorilla (and presumably the new one) fit a small bear can such as Bearikade Weekender?Apr 14, 2012 at 8:34 am #1867161
I fit a small bearvault no problem.Apr 14, 2012 at 10:50 pm #1867368
@sgiachettiLocale: Boulder, CO
man, looks like the ultimate ultralight pack to me. only wish their was straps to lash skis too!
The old Gorilla is the most comfortable pack I've owned.Apr 15, 2012 at 12:41 pm #1867489
I really like the look of this pack. I hope to here some more user reviews but I'll probably be selling my Jam to get this.Apr 15, 2012 at 5:48 pm #1867563
Mike In SocalParticipant
I'm excited to see this pack. I was eyeing the Murmur earlier this year but really wanted something larger in the new design. This might be it.Apr 16, 2012 at 6:34 pm #1867931
Cody, the super wide shoulder straps killed the gorilla for me. Otherwise it would have been perfect for me. Hoping this one is the ticket.Apr 21, 2012 at 5:56 pm #1869755
@rbeardLocale: ATL, Southern Appalachia
o my. i love my 2012 gorilla. the shoulder straps are perfect thinckness and the compression system is simple and brilliant at the same time. this thing carries like a dream. i have tried the old murmur, the new murmur, the old gorilla….this pack is head and shoulders above them all with its flexibility and lightyears beyond the old gorilla in terms of form and function. this design is a game changer for gg…i am super impressed.Apr 21, 2012 at 8:03 pm #1869786
@cadyakLocale: southwest georgia
What size did you get Adam?Apr 21, 2012 at 11:59 pm #1869835
@rbeardLocale: ATL, Southern Appalachia
medium. fits like a glove on this 19/19.5 torso.Apr 24, 2012 at 1:16 am #1870513
@rlmckayLocale: Wanaka NZ
Yes it does – I used this on my recent JMT HikeApr 24, 2012 at 1:17 am #1870514
@rlmckayLocale: Wanaka NZ
I agree re shoulder straps – plus fabric – dyneema betterApr 25, 2012 at 7:32 pm #1871277
Received mine in size Large today. I'm disappointed, and will be sending it back.
– Frame design is smart, minimalist, and effective. Combined with the waistbelt, the load is effectively transferred to the hips.
– Fold-over top entry is good, makes a nice barrier to rain and offers good access without the pain-in-the-azz of rolltop designs.
– Easily removable sit pad is excellent, though not a new feature.
– Compression system is simple and effective.
– Modularity is great, and one of the chief reasons I tried this pack. 10 lb load for a quick overnight? Ditch the frame and waistbelt. Packmule because you're taking along the girlfriend or wife? Add those components back for a sweet carry.
– The super wide shoulder straps abrade the sides of my neck. Must have been designed by pencil-necked folks. The straps could easily be made 1" narrower. If the load is heavy enough to need a 3"+ shoulder strap, you should be using the included waistbelt and frame, thus not have much load on the shoulder straps.
– Sternum strap attachments are needlessly gimmicky. One crack in the tiny pieces of plastic that anchor it and boom, failure.
– The elastic on the upper edge of the side pockets is thin and chintzy. I have no doubt it would get stretched out and abraded quickly. Putting a 1L Gatorade bottle in there pushes it almost to the max. I think MLD's sewn dyneema tunnel with bungie cord is far superior. Same thing with the top edge of the rear mesh pocket.
– Multiple, obvious high-stress points have no bartacks, just a single pass of thread. This really bugs me.
– Waistbelt pockets are terribly small, you can't fit much more than 2 Clif bars in each one and that's a tight fit. For fractions of an ounce and a couple dollars more in material (literally), the pockets could be much bigger and useful for exactly the same labor cost.
For the money, I think they took too many shortcuts. The reinforced construction I'd like to see would add maybe 10 grams to the weight, and take the worker 15 minutes more time. They boast that it's made in the USA, but I've seen significantly better craftsmanship from China.
I don't think the pack is a total sham, just a waste of great potential.
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