Olicamp Ultra Titanium Stoves w/XTS Pot

Monatauk Gnat is 1.65 ounces, so it is lighter than Olicamp.

–B.G.–

Monatauk's site says it weighs 48 grams. They did a bad conversion somewhere.

The label on the Monatauk Gnat case said "1.6 ounces." I weighed one, and it was 1.65. I weighed a second one, and it was also 1.65.

Metric conversion is a lost art.

–B.G.–

CAUTION!!!!!

First of all, I am not sure whether these Xcelerator stoves have actually reached the stores yet. Maybe so, in the last few days.

But that Xcelerator stove does NOT have a heat exchanger or pre-heat tube! It is NOT a winter stove as it stands! If you invert the canister … could be a problem!

There is another model coming with a pre-heat tube, MAYBE.

Cheers
PS: the upright version is the same as the Gnat and the FMS-116T. The latter is the Fire-Maple designation. They make them all.
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Hi Roger,

Do you have any experience with the Xcelerator stove or is your concern just the lack of a pre-heat tube? In that case, it seems as if the new Primus OmniLite Ti model doesn't have one either and from what I have read and seen, this has not been an issue which is quite surprising considering it was designed to burn liquid fuels unlike the Olicamp Xcelerator that wasn't.. I realize in very cold weather the gas in the canister will condense and turn into a more liquid form and this is the reason you have to invert the canister but I am not sure the target market for this stove, was use in subzero temps.. Just like every product on the market, it was designed for a specific purpose and certain type of customer base. I have a feeling that the customers who buy this will not be melting snow in subzero temps. I am guessing the target market is 3 season Lightweight Backpackers, Small Groups, Gear Junkies, Rock Climbers, Etc. Basically anyone who likes using a remote canister stove but wants something lighter then anything currently available.. There is nothing stable about a pot full of water on a stove that is on top of a canister.. This is where Remote Canister stoves really shine, especially when cooking for more then one person or using larger pots… In this case I think Olicamp hit the nail on the head..

That said, I don't like the general CAUTION without describing what the potential problem is or what people should avoid doing… Its like giving a CAUTION with a Silnylon tarp.. And then forgeting to say, *For Mountaineering use Silnylon tarps would not provide enough protection from the elements and in result you could DIE from Exposure. But for their designed use of 3 season lightweight backpacking, they work great.. With that said, Roger's concern is flipping the canister over in subzero temperatures… Without a pre-heat tube the stove could flare up.. But at the end of the day the stove weighs only 3.5oz, costs $69.95 and fills a huge gap in the remote canister stove market. So while the stove wasn't designed for every situation, I think it still checks alot of boxes and could work great for its target customer base. 3 Season Lightweight Backpackers..

Thanks,
Lawson

I'm really liking that pot.

Hi Lawson

No experience yet with the Xcelerator stove per se, but it is the FMS-116T/Gnat mounted up on legs, and I have a lot of experience with those.

The Primus OmniLite Ti is a totally different beast. It's a vortex burner: think 'XGK'. I have built versions of the OmniLite myself, years ago, and have a bit of experience with them.

A vortex burner does not need a visible pre-heat tube over the top to handle propane/butane. But it does have a serious pre-heat operation: the flame inside the chamber does directly heat the incoming fuel in the tube leading to the jet.

> But that Xcelerator stove does NOT have a heat exchanger or pre-heat tube! It is NOT
> a winter stove as it stands! If you invert the canister … could be a problem!
Well, I thought that was fairly clear, actually. But I will be more explicit. Do not invert the canister. You will get liquid fuel out the jet – probably in splutters.

Used as shown in the pictures – with the canister upright, it should be a very nice stove (subject to testing of course). Yes, Chinese (Fire-Maple), but the quality of the Fire-Maple stoves has been increasing lately. They are going to scare the establishment.

Cheers

Kenetic = Firemaple FMS-116T,
Xcelerator = Firemaple FMS-117T,
XTS pot = Firemaple FMC-XK6,
Retail price in China were around $30,$30,$15 when I visit there last year.

Some one have done a test for FMC-XK6, compare it with another FMC-xK6 without heat exchange, by using same stove on two new canister and fire power set to same to bring 800ml of water to 95℃. XK6 took 4′52″ and consumed 12.4g of fuel,the one without heat exchange took 6'41" and consumed 16.1g of fuel, 22.98% improve on fuel consumption and 27.2% on time saving simply by adding heat exchange.
(http://bbs.8264.com/thread-1146820-1-1.html)site is in Chinese.

Do they have a liquid fuel model?

Kevin

> Do they have a liquid fuel model?
Just one, the FMS-F2. It can be used with a canister too.

Cheers

I have one this pot. With lid mine weighs 7.8oz

…minus handles: 6.8, minus handles & lid: 5.7 — the box says 3.9oz

How do you like it? Do you have a stove as well or just the pot? Its too bad they used the wrong numbers. Not sure why Manufacturers do this. Its annoying to say the least..

Found this photo

And engineering sample weight 146g(5.1oz).

I'd interested in the Xcelerator with pot if they work well.

Hi Lawson, I was wondering if you ever ordered the stoves and tested them, and will you be carrying them? thanks

I'm interested in the Accellerator and Pot reviews and availability, too. After a week in the Sierra comparing the Crux Lite with an un-finned pot to an adjacent Crux with the HE pot, I am very comfortable in saying I'd like remote canister, lightweight stoves with HE pots for my Scouts.

I'd also be stoked to buy them from you, rather than direct from China, if only to support my sources of information.

Well, I ordered the Excellerator and finned pot from a Fire Maple seller. I've got a few more trips this season, and I really want the low/stable aspect of this stove, over the canister-top setup. The cool part is that this rig will also work well with my gigantic Optimus crew potset with the HE ring on the big one.

Price wise, I will come out very close to Lawson's numbers, so if he starts offering these and stocks them, he's gonna beat the China Post all day long.