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    Colin Krusor
    BPL Member

    @ckrusor

    Locale: Northwest US

    Crosslinked polypropylene heat shrink tubing is less than a third of the weight of vinyl aquarium tubing for a given diameter, and it packs much smaller. Six feet of 3/8" heat shrink tubing could be rolled up and stuffed into a film canister with room to spare. Has anyone tried this as an alternative to vinyl aquarium tubing for gravity filters? It would only be exposed to hot sunlight when it is in use, and then it would have cold water running through it, so I wouldn't expect shrinkage to be a problem.

    #1864852
    Zach Verhey
    Member

    @overshot

    Not too sure that you'd want to drink water from heatshrink tubing. There may be adhesive, mold/die release chemicals, and other contaminants in it. You can try, but I wouldn’t try it.

    #1864870
    Colin Krusor
    BPL Member

    @ckrusor

    Locale: Northwest US

    Zach, that is a good point. The material (polypropylene) is a very inert polyolefin that is used all the time for food and beverage packaging (including drinking straws), though, and it doesn't contain any plasticizers, BPA, phthalates, etc. Residues on the inside surface might be a problem, though. I'll wash it out thoroughly with acetone and alcohol (clean, lab-grade) before using it.

    #1864895
    Roger Caffin
    BPL Member

    @rcaffin

    Locale: Wollemi & Kosciusko NPs, Europe

    > I'll wash it out thoroughly with acetone and alcohol (clean, lab-grade) before using it.
    The heatshrink behaviour is often due to stresses created in the tubing during manufacture. As such, the heatshrink nature does not depend on extra chemicals.

    I suggest a good wash in luke-warm (NOT hot!) soapy water and a rinse in cold water.

    Cheers

    #1864933
    Rusty Beaver
    BPL Member

    @rustyb

    Locale: Idaho

    "The material (polypropylene) is a very inert polyolefin that is used all the time for food and beverage packaging (including drinking straws)…"

    If it's the same as used in drinking straws, then drinking straws could be used as heat shrink tubing?

    #1864985
    Colin Krusor
    BPL Member

    @ckrusor

    Locale: Northwest US

    Rusty, yes, drinking straws can be used as heat-shrink tubing. I've used them for that. They also heat seal well, and I use large-diameter "bubble tea" drinking straws with heat sealed ends to store a few things in my first aid kit.

    #1865132
    Rusty Beaver
    BPL Member

    @rustyb

    Locale: Idaho

    Cool, Colin! That's good to know. Thanks.

    #1920513
    jason blake
    Member

    @jasonbl

    If i would be going to use it this way then i might be doing some tests and analysis before proceeding!
    Heat shrink tubing's are wrapped over target wire's and heated until it regains its original form by contracting. This heating process is Instantaneous with large amount of heat with in just couple of seconds !
    In the case If we keep on heating a heat shrink tube at 30 deg's (heated rooms) at constant 24 hr's then it will start to contract very slowly over time.
    So we can say above situation is a force from [ outside -> Inside ].

    We know when water/Air or some thing Travel's trough a tubing or stays there ; exerts a pressure at inside walls of that body ; So, in this situation it is a force from
    [ Inside -> outside ].

    These two pressures will exert a resultant force which will be added to faster water flow ; Hence Tubes due to their thin walls would crack at joining or where it suits to ! So , using these in my sense is not feasible , it may stay for some days but .. at last it has to be leaked after all !

    That's why they use normally a thick material to supply liquids . So that if however Pump pushes water with more flow some times due to change in electricity then it must withstand that shock !

    But ; Better Try using it as it costs to nothing ! and get your personal conclusion over it !!

    Jason
    turnkey pcb

    #1920532
    Kevin Beeden
    BPL Member

    @captain_paranoia

    Locale: UK

    > We know when water/Air or some thing Travel's trough a tubing or stays there ; exerts a pressure at inside walls of that body ; So, in this situation it is a force from
    [ Inside -> outside ].

    Yes, but we're talking a gravity feed filter here. At most, it's likely to be a 2m hydrostatic head. It's not thousands of psi…

    > Hence Tubes due to their thin walls would crack at joining or where it suits to

    The heat shrink tubing in question is commonly used to make a protective outer for cables that are required to flex. I'd say it's low risk.

    Even if a hole develops, you could cut the tube down to remove the leak, or patch it with duct tape; it won't be the end of the world. You might have to go back to boiling water, or, shock horror, drink water without treating. <faints>

    > So that if however Pump pushes water with more flow

    Pump? Again, we're talking about gravity-fed water filters. There's no pump involved.

    The other advantage of heat-shrink tubing is that you could shrink it on to the filter…

    I'd go with the non-adhesive version.

    #1920564
    Colin Krusor
    BPL Member

    @ckrusor

    Locale: Northwest US

    Jason, I've been using the thin-walled tubing since mid-summer, and it works well. No leaks or perceptible shrinkage so far.

    #1920568
    David Thomas
    BPL Member

    @davidinkenai

    Locale: North Woods. Far North.

    For a tubing that is lighter than vinyl, you could use the milky-white, thin-wall polyethylene tubing such as is sold for connecting ice makers. Almost anything in a small diameter will handle the pressure just fine, but making a good connection and having it survive repeated handling is a more demanding criteria.

    Also, consider going to a diameter smaller than 3/16". Check what flow you get without the filter attached, I suspect it is much faster than with the filter attached. If so, you could go to a smaller tubing size.

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