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sleeping bag decision, sub kilo or SD nitro 15

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PostedApr 1, 2012 at 4:21 pm

I have to buy a new bag for an upcoming 2 week trip in the Adirondacks, and I also want the bag to be as useful for other trips as possible. I can get the sub kilo for $140, and the SD nitro 15 for $200. I'm trying to decide between the two, I don't mind spending a bit more, but if anyone can chime in I would appreciate it!

I've read the sub kilo 20 is a bit optimistic, but would work sleeping with layers, the SD 15 might be too warm for summer though. I've never had a "real" backpacking bag, always used heavier bulky bags, so experience is welcome.

Would the nitro 15 be more useful say, if I decide to do the AT in the next few years? I don't want to be limited, but I can only have one bag at this time, and since I am going into summer and on a budget, leaning toward the REI bag.

Thanks for any input!

Cheers,

B

Jeff M. BPL Member
PostedApr 1, 2012 at 4:31 pm

I'm not sure how it would fare during summer, but I've used the SD Nitro 15 in Fall, Winter, and Spring conditions and it worked great. It's a great bag. You could always keep it unzipped and use it like a quilt during summer if you find it too warm. For a trip with temps into the 20's, it should work great.

Peter James BPL Member
PostedApr 1, 2012 at 4:45 pm

I did not like the Sub-Kilo, I found the fit to be too restrictive, to the point it was hard to unzip in the morning (I'm 5'1", 160#). Also, it's nowhere near a 20 degree bag, IMO. I woke up feeling pretty cool, but not cold, on a 30 degree morning, wearing a 300-wt fleece jacket inside the sleeping bag.

First Last BPL Member
PostedApr 1, 2012 at 4:50 pm

The subkilo is really more of a 30 degree bag. Nice bag though and at $140 it is a great buy.

The SD Nitro by all accounts is a much warmer bag, probably close to a true 15 degree bag. Also a nice bag and at $200 that is great buy.

So the choice is yours: Do you prefer a bag that is a little heavier and is going to be too warm or one that is a little lighter and is going to be too cold? If you want only one bag for a wide variety of conditions this is unfortunately the trade-off you have to make.

PostedApr 1, 2012 at 7:02 pm

I do not have any experience with the SD bag but I own 2 of the REI Subkilo 20's long.
I paid around $120 for each of them.
For me it's closer to a 30 degree bag, for my wife it's more like a 40 – 45 bag.
It's a really small bag, I don't have room for both of my arms in the bag comfortably and it's tight around the knees (I'm 5'11" and around 210# and a side sleeper) on me. I don't find room for extra layers. For the price it's a decent bag if you can fit comfortably in it. Mine have mostly been turned over to my kids to use but I'll still use it like a quilt once in a while.

PostedApr 1, 2012 at 11:09 pm

My last sleeping bag was A Sierra Designs down bag, and it served me well for 11 years. So I went with the same company for my new bag, the Nitro 15. I was changing to a more exposed bug-net, tarp system type sleeping shelter and needed more warmth from my bag, so I went with the SD nitro-15. I've used it for winter and summer conditions for a year now. here are my comments about the purchase:

-I would look into some of these quilt type bags which are equally light and warm ( cottage industries) that I didn't know about ( some of these bags are really light!)
-My SD nitro 15 is a well made -solid constructed bag
-VERY VERY comfortable
-Great weight-warmth ratio

cons
the zipper is a little finicky at times

Hope this helps!

PostedApr 3, 2012 at 7:01 am

Thanks everyone who posted!

I forgot to mention the sub kilo 20 is available to any REI members for $143 right now with coupon.

I ordered one, and I will see how well it fits (I am pretty small, 5'6" 135lbs) and pick up the SD bag if the sub kilo won't cut it.

I was looking at the cottage quilt makers, but I couldn't find anything to fit my budget. Maybe that has changed? Any ideas? PM me if you know of one, I would prefer a quilt.

Jeff M. BPL Member
PostedApr 3, 2012 at 3:56 pm

Check out enlightened equipment’s revelation X line of quilts. Great pricing on quilts that I think you might be interested in. You can find them here. I have a 0 degree quilt and its great.

PostedApr 7, 2012 at 8:31 am

I love the Sub Kilo. I bought mine last year at about $160 and for me it was the perfect balance between size, weight, and cost for a 3-season. I just can't afford some of those 850 or 900 fill down bags and making a good quilt seems daunting.

I'm actually surprised by how much dissent showed up on your post so I thought I'd chime in to help you feel better about your purchase. I'm 5'10" and 175lbs and I have no problem with the size of the bag. I'm in MN and have used it close to its temp rating without issue as well. $143 is a stupid good price for this bag; IMHO I think you'll be very happy with your decision!

PostedApr 9, 2012 at 10:46 am

well, I got the sub-kilo and slept out with it a couple of nights. I think it will do the trick at least until I can afford something better. It was 25 one night, and I was cold, but my big agnes air core wasn't helping stay warm underneath, so I can't blame the bag. Next night it was 30, and I was warm enough with the air core plus blue closed cell foam under. Both nights I had thick merino wool base layer, heavy wool socks, and hat. I honestly can't see how anyone larger than myself would be able to use this bag though, it is almost too small for me. I think with a higher R value sleeping pad I can use this down to 25 degrees.

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