I'm looking to purchase a Thermojet stove and was trying to find an ultralight Ti pot that is at least 4.75 inches in diameter. Thermojet claims that this is the minimum size to get the greatest efficiency out of the stove. Any suggestions on a UL pot that size?
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Michael, I recently bought the Trek 900 and it is exactly 4.75" in diameter.
Unlike some other pots, this one's lid has some depth, and so is useful as a frypan, eating bowl, drinking cup, inverted onto the pot it is a warming tray, on and on.. It has replaced all my other Ti and Al pots except my jetboil.
Fits a small or large canister and folding stove. I use mine with the canister, esbit, and alcohol.
Initially I made the mistake of buying pots which were too small. 900ml is enough water to re-hydrate a big winter meal and have a hot drink. Highly recommended.
Brett,
This cookware is perfect. The cup will fit the Thermojet nicely and I like the fact that there is a pan that I can use as a bowl. Thanks for the info!
-mc
Michael, you probably already know this, but other ways to get the greatest efficiency out of the stove are to use a windscreen with about 1/2" gap, paint the bottom of the pot with black barbeque spray paint, cozy-cooking, keep the lid on the pot, only heat as hot as you need to (you don't chug vigorously boiling coffee I hope), and about 20 more ideas that SUL freaks like pj, Ben, could come up with.(let's see if they take the bait :)
There is talk now of a '5 gram boil'. This is the SUL hiker's equivalent of breaking the sound barrier in a home-built airplane.
Brett, you covered everything that pops into my head at the moment other than don't run the stove full-blast & don't let the flames lick up the side of the pot/mug.
Michael,
The smaller Thermojet stove works with pots with diameters of 4.75 to 5 5/8". A larger diameter pot such as my Evernew .9L pot with a 5.5" diameter should be more efficient with the stove. The Evernew is my pot for this stove.
Rich
Richard – are you using the non-stick version of the Evernew or the version without the coating?
I will second Rich's comment. I did a bit of testing a couple of years ago with the smaller thermojet. The evernew .9L non stick was approx 25% more fuel efficient (in the lab, err kitcten) than any other pots I tried include an older MSR steel pot, an aluminum pot from the kitchen, anti-gravity 24oz, Snowpeak Trek (don't remember if it was the 700 or 900), and one or two other pots. I can't say enough good things about the Evernew .9L. If you are just boiling water, save some money and weight with the uncoated version. I would expect the same performance, though I haven't tested it myself.
Hi Steve,
My Evernew .9L Titanium Pot is the noncoated version. On the other hand, my Evernew 1.3L Titanium Pot is the non-stick coated version. Some like the non-stick coatings, some swear at them. YMMV. Regardless of which you get, make sure there is water and/or snow and water in the pot; do not heat these pots empty- without water.
Rich
Hi Brett,
Yea, I was trying to keep the gap close to 1/2", but the Ti cups I was looking at were less than 4 inches in diameter. Painting the bottom of the pot black sounds like a good idea.
I'm looking to replace my JB PCS for some outings and I only use it to heat water for freeze dried and coffee/tea. So, I don't need to boil the water. I do have a trip planned this summer at around 13K feet and I was concerned about the performance of the alcohol stove.
Thanks for the insight.
I use the Evernew Titanium Teapot with my Thermojet:
http://www.evernewamerica.com/usa_CA318.htm
It is short and wide (4.88" diameter), so it fits the windscreen opening well.
Richard, I see you caution against heating the Ti pots. The coated ones certainly, it would damage the coating, but I see no reason an uncoated pot could not be heated (but no reason to intentionally do so). I buy single-wall uncoated Ti specifically because I expose it directly to flames.
No reason to heat an empty pot of course, but is there some reason Im unaware of? Thanks.
He Brett,
I could be mistaken, but I believe that not heating the empty Titanium Pots was recommended by Evernew because there is concern about warping, changing shape, affecting the metal of the pot.
Rich
Hey all, I took it upon myself to ‘sacrifice’ my SP600 by conducting a Titanium Burn Test
The metal got glowing right at the start… but no lasting harm was done…
Of course, in the case of Evernew, they have “rubberized” handles, so that could be the issue with the Evernew… but warping? yeah… whatever… especially if you’re using alcohol, there’s no way alcohol is going to damage a non-coated all-Ti pot.
Oh, btw… if you wanted to, you could toss a grimy (or maybe food-burned) ti pot in the your self cleaning over to burn off the gunk as well…
Hi Joshua,
Now that you mention it, I believe that Evernew did caution that there would be a discoloration of the Titanium if the pots were heated empty.
Rich
yes, my cups and pots are discolored from overheating; good point. It seems to be cosmetic only, and makes me look like a trail-weathered veteran when I pull them out; ha ha..
I have an Evernew non-stick pot. Every time I cook a meal in it, the pot seems to retain the flavor of the food for quite a while.
Example…I cooked good old Lipton beef noodles in it over the weekend. After cooking, it was washed twice with hot soapy water. Later, I boiled water for some green tea. The tea tasted more like broth than tea.
Has anyone else notice this with their pots? Maybe I'm just nuts.
Chad, I had the same problem. I thought I was being progressive by trying coated NS aluminum, then coated NS titanium, but the coatings could not take the high heat nor the abrasive cleaning routine I subject my pots to. Easy to say don't use high heat, but the flames DO touch the pot, damage the coating, and scorch the food in a ring shape.
Im back to a simple non-coated Ti Snowpeak Trek900. Light and 'bad-cook-proof'.
Thanks Brett! I'm glad to know it isn't just me. I'm going to pick up an non-coated ti pan and ditch the coated stuff.
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