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Tent pole sleeve design: inside or outside?

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PostedMar 28, 2012 at 3:04 am

Hello all! I'm reading this forum for a while, but this is my first post. I want to thank all for the amount of ideas shared here.

I’m going to make а new single-wall hybrid a-frame-tunnel tent, and cannot decide which design of a tent pole sleeve to choose. If I’ll put it outside, I think it should be more stable, but will require longer pole. If I’ll put it inside, pole will have some space for unwanted movement. Also, if it will break it may pierce a hole in the tent fabric. Any ideas about pros and cons of each design?

Stuart R BPL Member
PostedMar 28, 2012 at 5:16 am

I chose inside, in a sleeve which prevents movement. The shape of the apex also helps. It seems stable enough.
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PostedMar 28, 2012 at 6:21 am

Nice tent! Have you had any issues with the poles threading in the windy weather?

I forgot to mention that I will use WPB fabric, so I have to use tape to seal seams.

P.S. Sorry for my English.

Stuart R BPL Member
PostedMar 28, 2012 at 8:10 am

Sorry, I don't know what you mean by poles "threading".

Stuart R BPL Member
PostedMar 28, 2012 at 12:00 pm

For my first attempt I made the sleeve from silnylon. Bad idea – too much friction preventing the aluminium alloy pole from sliding in. So then I made a new sleeve from noseeum mesh (the fabric with lots of tiny holes that insects cannot get through). That was perfect, very little friction and the pole slides in easily. You might get different results if you used carbon fibre poles, but then you would need a different design anyway.

Roger Caffin BPL Member
PostedMar 28, 2012 at 2:17 pm

Hi Oleksi

Both inside and outside work fine. I have used both. No significant difference in stability.
I don't think the difference in length will really matter.
If the pole breaks, you have bigger problems! But a torn outer sleeve is not as bad as a torn fly, so outside has an advantage there.
In either case, you need to make the sleeve wide enough. Stuart had some problems with silnylon I see, but I have no problems with a sleeve which is 25 mm across. That looks large, but works very well for me. The poles slide easily.

Cheers

PostedMar 28, 2012 at 7:18 pm

Right when gortex first came out most tent and rain gear was not tape sealed. You had to apply a seam sealer right after you purchased the garmet or tent. Event the first Gortex jackets and the few Gortex tents had to be sealed.

Seam taping was introduced by manufactures to want to avoid complaints and returns from customers that didn't know that the seams were not sealed.

If you use just enough seam sealer to water proof the seam it won't hurt the breathability of the fabric.

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