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Marmot Super Mica vs. Pat Houdini

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PostedMar 26, 2012 at 11:05 am

I know much has been written about both and the latest wp/b review here mentioned the Marmot Essence, a close sibling to the Super Mica. I'm looking for something that can not only be used for backpacking/hiking/climbing, but also trail runs, adventure racing etc.. I already have a heavier 3-layer Rab eVent that is much sturdier for when things get ugly. The Houdini has quite a cult following, especially too with the crowd in the UK. It seems that the Houdini might be a tad more breathable and sure its just over 4oz lighter. But it seems with the features of the Super Mica – pit zips, velcro cuffs, nicer hood, pack pockets and a true wp/b DWR versus water-repellant that it's worth the extra 4oz. I don't see how the real-world breathability could be vastly different with either, especially on the SM with pit zips. Any right now they both can be had for almost the same price, so that's a non-issue.

Anybody can weigh in that has used either or want to poke holes in my theory? Welcome any input. Thanks.

Link . BPL Member
PostedMar 26, 2012 at 11:10 am

The super mica is a rain jacket and the houdini is a wind shirt,not meant for sustained rain and is meant to be very breathable.

Stephen Barber BPL Member
PostedMar 26, 2012 at 11:24 am

Like Anna said, the Super Mica is a water-proof/breathable rain jacket, and the Houdini is a windbreaker.

So are you trying to stay dry from the rain, or keep the wind from chilling you?

I have both, and the Super Mica will not work well as a windbreaker, nor will the Houdini work well as a rain jacket.

Take your pick!

PostedMar 26, 2012 at 11:38 am

Thanks. I should have prefaced my post with those same comments, realizing that each jacket had a different intended function. I guess my thought was could I get double function out of the Super Mica with little weight penalty. Rain protection when needed and on clear days just a nice layer to provide some wind protection. I think grampa's post summed that up pretty well – being a 'no'.

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