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largest gas canisters which fit inside the Jetboil Sol?

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PostedFeb 6, 2012 at 11:07 am

Hi, ordered waiting delivery of a Jetboil Sol Ti. I bought a 100g and a 230g net fuel canister of Jetboil's own make but noted the 230g just barely fits inside due to width and the 100g fits with room to spare. I only had the canisters in the store to try for size not all that exist.

What is the LARGEST canister which will fit inside? Focus on the width.

I see from this blog that a 110g canister will also fit with room to spare, this one using a Kovea canister

http://lightweighttramping.blogspot.com/2012/01/jetboil-sol-ti.html

/SAM_0249.JPG110g fuel inside Jetboil Sol Ti

Jim W. BPL Member
PostedFeb 6, 2012 at 1:43 pm

I'll check tonight- but it looks like the Sol may be slightly larger inside diameter than the PCS. It always seemed that the SnowPeak 110 cans were a snug fit in the PCS but they seem much looser in the Sol. I still doubt that any 230g cans will fit- though they may almost fit if you put them in last, head down with the crimped bottom sticking out.

With my PCS I always leave the 110g can attached to the stove and put a small dish cloth in first to keep the canister edge from scratching pot bottom. I definitely prefer keeping it attached for ease of use.

The Jetboil Sumo pot will hold a 230 or 450 gram can just fine!

PostedFeb 6, 2012 at 2:40 pm

All the 0.8 and 1L Jetboil pots are 104mm in diameter (that is the outside dimension)
The 230g canisters that I know of are around 108 to 110 mm (110 mm listed for the Jetboil brand)
Franco

PostedFeb 6, 2012 at 3:03 pm

Interesting to know if Sol Ti inner is wider than Sol due to Ti allowing thinner material.

So far, largest I've seen confirmed to fit is 110g, which is…10% more fuel than Jetboil's 100g which is an obvious missed opportunity. Like the 100g JB canister was sized way back before Sol Ti and it is a tight fit in non-Ti pots?

The weight arguments for taking a JB begin to become real as you get towards whole-canister usage as relatively little weight reducing but an Alcohol stove adds 16g per 500ml vs gas 4g/500ml. So having more gas sizes which fit internally just switches more trip durations into gas which would otherwise use a 230g or add another 100g which then nullifies gas weight advantage.

Seriously though, on 5 day trips, this is my usual (current) habit which is 2 x 500ml for breakfast (one large drink, porridge), 2 x 500ml for supper (one large drink, dinner, the wetter the food the less the drink), so at fuel on the low-setting is 4x4g = 16g, 5 days = 80g so about 20g spare safety for any simmering. If I use fuel at max speed then the canister forecasts empty (4x5g x5 days =100g). However, the JB being fast to boil opens up possibility of a hot lunchtime stop (instead of keeping moving) which would then take right up empty. A 110g or more would then be a safety extra.

For these reasons its making me think on that 5day borderline canister life, a couple of Esbits just in case, lighter to add than another canister or carrying a larger canister. Use the canister at the start, if its emptied then Esbit the last meal.

For less than 5 days or less cooking, then less of a canister-running-out concern.

Hikin’ Jim BPL Member
PostedFeb 8, 2012 at 11:24 am

Nigel,

The largest canisters that will fit in a JetBoil are 110g (Snow Peak, Optimus). MSR or Brunton 113g canisters will NOT fit. None of the 220g to 230g sized canisters will fit inside.

HJ
Adventures In Stoving

PostedFeb 8, 2012 at 12:21 pm

Of the largest capacity canisters which are 110g, which is shorter to fit the most other stuff inside the pot? Is there any view of which is better between SnowPeak and Optimus?

NoCO-Jim BPL Member
PostedFeb 8, 2012 at 2:28 pm

FWIW, Jetboil Sol Ti Cup ID dimensions:
95mm on 0.8L cup
114mm 0n 1.8L Sumo

Hikin’ Jim BPL Member
PostedFeb 8, 2012 at 3:06 pm

Nigel,

I don’t have an Optimus canister here to compare, but the Snow Peak and Optimus appear to be very very close in size. I doubt that there would be any meaningful difference between the two.

HJ
Adventures In Stoving

PostedFeb 8, 2012 at 7:24 pm

Jim, thanks for commenting on relative size. Is there a difference in performance, quality or any preference between them?

NoCO-Jim BPL Member
PostedFeb 9, 2012 at 5:38 am

Nigel, the Sumo appears to be same quality and construction as the 0.8L, just a bigger dia. and ht. They do nest, although I don't know why you'd want to take both on a trip. Better for storage, keeping all the stuff together.

I just got the Sumo, so I haven't tried it out yet. I'm a coffee addict, and the 0.8L is just too small when BP'ing with my partner…you know, fighting over who get the 1st batch of hot water.

PostedFeb 9, 2012 at 5:52 am

2-pot cooking gives more food variety but I don't know why you'd want two Jetboil pots. The Trangia system is superior, cook one pot then keep it warm as the lid for the other pan. Not sure how you'd do that with Jetboil, is impractical so you'd have to cozy one of pots. Example is say rice and meat and dish, get the meat hot then keep it warm whilst cooking the rice then pour the meat on the rice. Interesting to compare the following weights – the Sumo Ti companion cup vs a light Alu+HA and the pot stand with the Sol Ti to use non-Jetboil pot, also interested in difference in fuel usage. Its probably a wash.

NoCO-Jim BPL Member
PostedFeb 9, 2012 at 6:11 am

By the way MSR's IsoPro 227g can (109.5mm OD) nests in the Sumo (114mm ID) pretty nice. Yeah, I agree, no need to bring both pots on a trip.

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