So I have a birthday coming up and have been asked for gift ideas. I am thinking maybe an ul woodstove. I am considering the ti-tri, bushbuddyultra, and bushcooker ltIII but am open to others. I have seen lots of info on the bushbuddy and ti-tri but not much on the bushcooker ltIII. They are all reasonably light. I want simple, durable, no impact, and preferably versatility with alcohol. I don't really like that you can only use one pot for the ti-tri. I would like to be able to use it solo as well as for small group cooking. I love that the bushbuddy ultra seems to be able to be used on most surfaces. I really want to be able to cook anywhere and leave no trace. I don't like that I have not seen much about versatility with alcohol(though I may not be looking in the right places). The Bushcooker at first glance seems to have the benefits of both and being ti and one piece is a bonus over the bushbuddy. However the one review here at bpl on it mentioned the bottom gets hotter than the bushbuddy and you have to be careful about where you use it. This if true might trump all of its benefits. I don't want to have to be overly careful about where I use it. Now I don't mind clearing forest litter this seems a no brainer but I don't want to worry about fire scars. Simplicity is very important. I can build a low impact fire but I don't want to have to. If anyone has any experiences or thoughts to share I would appreciate it. I have read among many others the threads from the article on wood cookers and would have purchased it or rejoined bpl(which I am still considering given the quantity and apparent quality of content lately) but there was no testing of the bushcooker which is the real unknown for me of the three. Thanks.
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check out the emberlit wood stove at http://www.emberlit.com. It may be another good option. Has an attachment for use with smaller pots.
+1 on the Emberlit-UL.
My initial thoughts on the emberlit: here
Awaiting delivery of some titanium tent stakes, then have a minor modification in mind to make it esbit compatible as a backup.
The caldera ti-tri sidewinder gets a lot of good press. I don’t have one as I have a lot of different pots I use depending on the situation of the trip. All of them fit on top of the emberlit…
I recently began using the BB Ultra. It is very simple, reasonably durable, and burns efficient . It may not have the versatility of say the Ti-Tri Caldera, but it IS possible to burn with alcohol or hexamine. Zelph Stoves sell a stove designed to be used in conjunction with the BB, I haven't used it personally so I am not sure how well it works though. I enjoy that the BB can be used with a variety of pots, although I believe the smallest it can be stored in is around a 900ml. I take a 900 ml solo, and around a 1300ml to 1500ml when going with someone else, this couldn't be done with the Ti-Tri Caldera. I looked at the BC LTII, and Ti-Tri before purchasing the BB but I found the BB to better suit my needs. I highly recommend it as a primary wood burning stove, but if you are looking for more of a backup wood burning system I might look at the Ti-Tri.
I have the LT1 which is I use both wood and Esbit, I've been very happy with it's performance w/ both fuels, @ 2.4 oz it's pretty darn light- it's also small and fits into a 600 SP pot
I use a thin, round piece of Ti to put under the stove, not so much for scarring issues (although it certainly prevents scarring w/ it)- I feel the stove works more efficiently w/ it- it adds ~4 grams :)
I think there are several youtube vids floating around showing the efficiency of this stove- one is a test against two other stoves
I have done extensive tests with busshbuddy and Lt1 bushcooker.
My choice if I had to purchase would be the LT1. I like one piece stoves.
Testing results can be found on my website http://www.bplite.com
I sold my Bushbuddy and the LT1. I use my creation, the folding "woodgaz" stove, weighs 5 ounces.
I also make and sell alcohol companion burners for all wood burning stoves. They are non-spill type.
I recently posted a video here at BPL of the three stoves being tested side by side. 3 tests were performed. All three are available on you tube.
i stopped carrying a woodstove b/c i can simply build a little twig fire on the ground and use rocks to create a potstand. doesn't get any more UL than no stove at all. however, some places have burn bans and such, so this option wouldn't work for everyone.
Thanks everyone for all the replies.
So from Mike's post it sounded like the Bushcooker does not have any issues with scaring the ground. Is this correct? Can it be used on any soil? What about a picnic table like the bush buddy? I am leaning toward toward this stove now. Its simplicity, versatility, and price all seem very good.
Josh, I too like to just build a fire for many trips. However I would really like to have the option for some trips to cook with wood quickly and efficiently anywhere without the time of preparing a low impact fire site and finding and then re-naturalizing support rocks. In addition to the time factor I am thinking of situations on well used trails where I might want to stop at a water source and cook adjacent to the trail. I think that building even a very low impact fire in these cases is borderline even in areas where wood fires are permitted. I looked at some fire cloth but a 1 sqft piece weighs 5 1/2 ounces and still seems to require a pile of mineral soil on it to prevent scaring as well as the hassle of support rocks or making a tripod. I am also assuming and please anyone tell me otherwise if I am wrong that just using a titanium floor would also require a pile of soil to prevent ground scaring.
Thanks again all!
I just checked these stoves out and they are pretty interesting. I especially like that you can use bigger sticks in the emberlit feeding seems less complicated. How do these stoves do with ground scarring? What surfaces can you or can't you use them on? Thanks
Mike, could you maybe share picture of what your thin round piece of Ti under your stove? thanks!
here is the wood stove i carried before just cooking on open fires. this would work for you…

here's top view. pot sits right on the top of the can. the little folds from the bottom cuts support the twigs up off the ground. ash collects down in the bottom. very low impact, if any…

Ha, cool little stove Josh. It won't win the award for most packable but it probably works just fine.
I boil/cook on an open fire more often than not as well, my Sidewinder setup comes along for those quick boils or mornings without a fire.
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