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    al b
    BPL Member

    @ahbradley

    What is the clo/tog of one and multiple layers of bubblewrap?

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    Richard Nisley
    BPL Member

    @richard295

    Locale: San Francisco Bay Area

    Bubble wrap is a trademark of Sealed Air Corporation and is used primarily for packaging. It is made out of polyethylene with air bubble size options up to ½ inch.

    The air bubbles provide effective conductive/convective thermal resistance but no IR thermal resistance. Hence, you need to put foil on either side of the bubble for it to be an effective insulator. These foil covered bubble wrap products have different trade names but their characteristics are all similar. At an average temp of 70F, the inherent 1” thermal resistance value of these types of products is about 5.5 R value, 6.1 clo, or 9.8 tog.

    Thermal resistance values are additive. For example, ¼” thick foil covered bubble wrap would provide ¼ of the 1” thermal resistance values.

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    al b
    BPL Member

    @ahbradley

    Thanks.

    I have another question.

    Does this mean bubble wrap needs foil to keep a human warm,
    or just that it would keep them warmer if it had a foil layer? Does an opaque fabric over it make any difference?

    #1375812
    Richard Nisley
    BPL Member

    @richard295

    Locale: San Francisco Bay Area

    Alan-You can approach the warmth of a blue foam pad, of the same thickness, if you use a comparable thickness of foil encased BubbleWrap. An opaque surface would result in comaprable warmth to an air mattress of the same thickness (much less warmth).

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    Gene .
    Member

    @tracker

    Locale: New England

    This is why I suggestted the use of Reflectix brand bubble insulation for a ground mat, as opposed to plain bubble wrap.

    #1375833
    Rick Dreher
    BPL Member

    @halfturbo

    Locale: Northernish California

    Bottom line on bubble pad support of any kind, reflective or not, is that it's of little insulative value as a sleeping pad. I've found it to be reasonably comfy in very warm conditions, but absolutely freezing otherwise.

    What's likely at work is large amounts of conductive and convective heat loss, versus radiant loss.

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    al b
    BPL Member

    @ahbradley

    I was thinking more of an overlayer for torso rather than ground pad (eg to go over a Paramo jacket when stop for lunch etc). Is the foil layer still needed for this?

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