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Matt B BPL Member
PostedJan 6, 2012 at 7:34 pm

SO……..

looking to do some winter hammocking and of course that leads me down the trail of new gear and such…
One thing was battery power for my headlamp in colder conditions.

while perusing into lithium batteries i came across this headlamp:

http://www.zebralight.com/H600w-XM-L-18650-Headlamp-Neutral-White_p_82.html

Has anyone used this? I know the battery is very specific. i.e cant be bought just anywhere. or used with hardly any other device.

BUT it is a rechargeable lithium battery. And look at the Lumens.. holy cow! And look at the battery life on High!

Anyway i would love some feedback if anyone has used this light. It seems for the extra ounce the light power and life of battery is incredible.

Also here is a link to buy the batterie and charger.

http://www.onlybatteries.com/cat_featured_items.asp?cat1=27&cat=2&id=163&uid=1107

Matt B BPL Member
PostedJan 6, 2012 at 8:23 pm

Thanks David,

but not what i was looking for really.

A link back to my own thread. And a link to another forum where someone is selling a charger.

I am more looking for feedback from purchaser/ user of product.

Bob Gross BPL Member
PostedJan 6, 2012 at 8:23 pm

David, thank you for giving us the link to this very thread.

–B.G.–

PostedJan 6, 2012 at 8:28 pm

previous post corrected to the original link I wanted to post.

I know that, but I saw a recent post on bpl regarding zebralights, and I know other people are interested in it so I'm just consolidating some links for easier access to information for 3rd parties…

I have a zebralight h51w but that seems irrelevant.

Bob Gross BPL Member
PostedJan 6, 2012 at 8:28 pm

Matt, we have discussed Zebralight… other models mostly. This particular model would be nice if you needed to light up a whole valley. Also, I think the listed weight is without battery and without the headlamp strap and holder.

Some of us took a slightly different approach and ended up with a different model at a lower weight.

–B.G.–

PostedJan 6, 2012 at 8:35 pm

For lithium batteries (where a quality charger is very important), the general consensus is that the cottonpicker is one of the best and is the lightest (very useful for me while traveling and it's usb).

The other highly recommended one is the pila ibc charger.

I've ordered the h600w and should be coming soon.

Matt B BPL Member
PostedJan 6, 2012 at 8:41 pm

BG-
Yes i saw a couple of other threads on other models, still seemd like people sticking with the regular AA battery.
But even those models were 1oz without strap. this being .4oz more

the lithium batterie weighs 1.64oz
regular AA battery weighs ??

i wouldnt need a spare battery if bringing the 18650 lithium. Saving weight!

David-

Very nice..
Seems there is a lot of fear factor with these batteries and charging. Did you order the 'protected' ones?

Matt B

Bob Gross BPL Member
PostedJan 6, 2012 at 8:48 pm

"regular AA battery weighs ??"

There is no definition of "regular."

You can buy Alkaline for low cost. You can buy NiMH for rechargeability. You can buy a Lithium primary battery for lowest weight and highest energy density, but highest cost per watt.

The Zebralight head strap is very nice, but heavy. Some of the silicone holders are black and some are Glow-In-The-Dark.

–B.G.–

Matt B BPL Member
PostedJan 6, 2012 at 8:54 pm

B.G
ok i think i get it.
Lithium are lighter so yes you can get lithium for the other headlamps too. so weight savings a wash.

But there would be saving with the 18650 because the run time is so long the need for a spare is gone. Possibly.

Also, sometimes its nice to light up the valley.

Matt B.

Matt B BPL Member
PostedJan 6, 2012 at 8:55 pm

Surely someone here could rig up an ultralight/ durable headband…..

Matt B.

PostedJan 6, 2012 at 9:17 pm

I ll be using the h51w floody for most short outings, it works for me for at least a bit below freezing (of course I can buy non rechargeable AA lithiums) and doing night hikes.
Since I plan on camping in much lower temps I wanted to use lithium batteries and have (quite) a bit more light and runtime hence the h600.

Not an expert, look towards the candlepowerforums for more knowledgeable people.

Last year I still read about horror stories about bad chargers (even quality AA chargers like the lacrosse) which limited me.
Even if they were not that dangerous most of the chargers could easily damage the lithium batteries which are not cheap.

Come into play the cottonpicker charger, pretty good quality, has a voltmeter, great prompt service from what I've read, it can charge the rcr123 batteries for my steripen
(the pila does as well, but you need spacers and it might be tricky at times).

Better to have a quality unprotected battery then a mediocre protected one. It also seems like the quality batteries a truer to their ratings.
I'm going to use the battery used by zebralights : Panasonic NCR18650 (the other brands of quality unprotected 18650 are rebadged panasonics – AW, readilast and kallie something..).
There shouldn't be a problem with the headlamp since it will cut off before the voltage gets too low and even than it won't really damage the battery – it's all quite a bit overblown getting the most at this level – kinda like saving grams.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Panasonic-NCR18650-18650-2900mAh-Li-ion-3-6v-Battery-x2/370516607290?ssPageName=WDVW&rd=1&ih=024&category=48619&cmd=ViewItem

Bob Gross BPL Member
PostedJan 6, 2012 at 9:44 pm

"But there would be saving with the 18650 because the run time is so long the need for a spare is gone. Possibly."

What is a spare? Maybe excess weight.

–B.G.–

Bob Gross BPL Member
PostedJan 6, 2012 at 9:47 pm

"Surely someone here could rig up an ultralight/ durable headband….."

I won't say that this is ultralightweight, but it is certainly lighter than the stock Zebralight head strap. I took an old Croakies eyeglasses strap and sewed it onto the silicone holder. That eliminated the adjustment slides and some weight.

–B.G.–

PostedJan 6, 2012 at 10:04 pm

I believe you can run this light with a lithium (not ion) CR123 and a dummy CR123. While battery life won't be as long as a good 18650, and you carry the weight of a dummy cell, this might be a better option for long distance hikers.

If you want to go with an 18650 on a long hike anyway, there's a guy on the candle power forums that sells a very tiny and inexpensive usb charger. He goes by "cottonpicker".

Jeremy Platt BPL Member
PostedFeb 26, 2012 at 1:40 pm

I caved in a couple of months ago and bought one of these for night hiking and cross country skiing. Crazy power and fun to use but batteries are real heavy.

Some pics and a short review here:
http://hiking26.blogspot.com.au/

Unfortunately couldn't get any good photos of it in action (camera phone).

Cheers,

Jeremy.

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