"it's hard in my mind to get something that's more packable."
About one square foot of heavy duty aluminum foil, folded down to about one square inch.
–B.G.–
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The Caldera Cone’s 12-10 Burner
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lol. Yes, but I mean the whole set up. If you just consider the windscreen alone, then sure. But if you consider the whole set up, the cone really doesn’t “cost” you a lot in your pack since it’s rolled up inside everything else.
HJ, my bowl holds about 15 fluid ounces. Everything goes in it. A cone would not fit.
–B.G.–
Ziploc Twist ‘N Loc. Couple of bucks at Ralphs. Set yourself free, Bob. :)
"Couple of bucks at Ralphs."
I think Ralphs must be a southern California thing. I've never seen such a place in northern California. Vons used to be a southern California thing also. But I bet you've never been to Raleys.
–B.G.–
I just used my shoes and spare gear as a wind break when cooking with the Trangia.
Yea, it was reverse evolution to go from a light weight Caldera to a Trangia setup.
There was no real advantage in going backwards.. i just did it.
Cooking Trout on my old Sierra zip Ztove wood burner:
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Hey, Matthew,
No posting trout around dinner time, bro. That’s cruel and unusual punishment. :)
So, isn’t the fan supposed to go under the Zip stove? Or did you take it out for slow cooking?
Yea, i took the drive section off so as not to burn a hole clean through the tin foil!
My Zip Ztove is over 15 years old and they had two AA batteries back then.
Well i replaced my alkalines with proprietary lithium cells out of a photo battery.
My Zip can smelt iron.
The other reason i cook trout like this is to avoid having to use a "camp"fire which leaves less of a trace.
Also makes for gorgeously cooked fish!.
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I am a Catch and.. KILL AND EAT type of fisherman.
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NICE!
Which burner design came first, the featherfire or the 12-10?
>Which burner design came first, the featherfire or the 12-10?
12-10
A little search shows they may have come out in the same year, correct?
When Liebnitz published his mathematical papers basically describing what we would today call Calculus, Sir Isaac Newton accused him of plagiarism. However, Leibnitz’s associates knew that Leibnitz had been working on his theories for quite some time. Indeed, a review of Liebnitz’s notes and papers showed that, as improbable as it seems, Liebnitz had independently come up with basically the same thing as Newton at approximately the same time.
If with Calculus so also with the the FeatherFire and the 12-10 stove? I cannot say. I merely point out the possibility.
Submitted for your consideration,
HJ, you are starting to sound like Rod Serling.
–B.G.–
HJ, you are starting to sound like Rod Serling.
There’s a sign post up ahead. Next stop? The BPlight Zone. ;)
"Which burner design came first, the featherfire or the 12-10?"
Does it really matter? Neither are original ideas, just adaptations of old designs. Now, I say that not having seen the 12-10 burner personally, but it looks very much like an ordinary chimney burner.
http://zenstoves.net/ConstructionStep2-FuelPort.htm#Step2cChimney-LPSBStove
The featherlight heat control is just a clever damper design, but in function does the same thing as the damper on the brasslite stove.
http://www.brasslite.com/
The only thing that really that clever about the trail designs setup is the conical pot stand / windscreen. And what's convenient is selling a burner that's optimized (at least according to them) to work as a complete system.
Give credit where credit is due- http://vimeo.com/14912890
BM
Stove design and history have always been interesting to me. My favorite hobby. I suppose the design goes back to the Brasslite.
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