Murmur 2012 get DXG treatment
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Nov 30, 2011 at 6:10 am #1282562Ismail FaruqiMember
Well.. anyone saw this?Nov 30, 2011 at 6:52 am #1807076Kevin BabioneBPL Member
I've used a Murmur since they became available – I really like the look of the new OTT (Over The Top) closure system. I've had some issues closing the pack completely on the first day of a trip when I'm fully loaded with food and it looks like the new top will fix that issue.
I may be seeing another pack in my future…Nov 30, 2011 at 11:09 am #1807184tyler marlowMember
I love it! It reminds me of the Granite Gear Wisp!
I wonder what the weight is going to be? All that Dyneema weighs a bit more than the sil. I hope they keep it under 10 oz, I might be buying oneNov 30, 2011 at 11:34 am #1807192Chris MBPL Member
That looks pretty exciting. My pack I made and use right now is modeled after the murmur. I agree, the new top closure looks like it will be very helpful.Nov 30, 2011 at 12:11 pm #1807200Link .BPL Member
If you click on specs it says 8.1oz(231 grams)Nov 30, 2011 at 12:35 pm #1807216Nick GatelBPL Member
@ngatelLocale: Southern California
"If you click on specs it says 8.1oz(231 grams)"
I think that is for the 2011 model, which was heavier than my earlier model. Looks like this one may have scope creep… or is it weight creep :) ala GoLite? It will be interesting to see.
It says more information will be posted later.Nov 30, 2011 at 12:52 pm #1807226tyler marlowMember
Under closer inspection I cannot tell if that 8.1 oz is for the new version or old. The specs for the 2012 are different but a lot of it is just the same as the old version.
It seems like the packlid is back! Laufbursche seems to have started this revival and I'm real happy to see it everywhere from Zimmerbuilt to this new Gossamer Gear pack. My hope is that some form of a lid can be made to comfortably carry a bear cannister on top of a small pack.Nov 30, 2011 at 8:35 pm #1807378Ismail FaruqiMember
I agree, the lid looks pretty neat. But ouch that price!!! for 155 we could get three full DXG Mec Genie!Nov 30, 2011 at 9:35 pm #1807392Link .BPL Member
From Gossamer Gear:
Between 8-9 oz. We will post the exact weight once they come off the sewing floor, and make sure
they are consistent. :)Dec 1, 2011 at 12:22 am #1807423chris kerstenMember
It looks sweet, but a $65 price jump on a pack that is designed no to last a long time? I have and love my murmur, and it has lasted longer than I expected, but I am sewing reinforcements here and there every few trips. Maybe the new one will have a little stronger material.Dec 1, 2011 at 2:47 am #1807433James MarcoBPL Member
@jamesdmarcoLocale: Finger Lakes
The Murmor’s predecessor, the G5, had a lot of durability issues. I kept using it well beyond it’s anticipated one year life span by patching, and reinforcing the bottom, pouches and shoulder straps.
The main impetus seems to be on durability. I just retired my G5 this fall. The spinnaker did not ever fair well with any load much over 10-12lb. There were probably 2 ounces of patches on it. This fall I stepped on a small outcrop headed down a hill and slid down a ways when it broke off. The one pouch and bottom of the pack were shredded. IF the bottom of the pouches and pack were heavier dynema, it may well have survived. Anyway, I got a couple more years out of it than I had expected. But it was also super light weight of around 7oz with a capacity of ~2400c (sorry, I don’t remember the exact numbers. Really, it was too big for the load capacity; I was always rolling it down.)
Shortly thereafter, they started producing the G5 in Silnylon. Same pattern, different, more rugged material but it weighed about 8oz. The shortage of spinnaker and it’s tendency to give slowly and split, probably had a lot to do with it. My daughter carries this one along with a night light pad.
The 2011 Murmor was ~2200ci at ~8.1oz in silnylon, doubled in wear areas.
The 2012 Murmor is 2200ci at ~9oz with dynema and a lid.
I think this pretty much confirms the weight creep. Capacity is reduced somewhat(it could be well afforded) but the main advantage I see is the much improved durability. But, at ~10oz, that is a LOT of weight to pay.
Have you seen the new The Minimalist? Phil put up an initial impressions review at:
http://sectionhiker.com/the-minimalist-ultralight-day-pack-from-gossamer-gear/Dec 1, 2011 at 7:00 am #1807460Scott H.Member
anyone have a pic of the new murmor? it doesnt appear to be on the website anymore.Dec 1, 2011 at 7:19 am #1807479Hamish McHamishBPL Member
"Have you seen the new The Minimalist? Phil put up an initial impressions review at:
Looks like a good alternative to the REI Flash 18.Dec 2, 2011 at 10:27 am #1807960John Frederick AndersonBPL Member
I had a previous version Murmur, which was the most comfortable pack I have carried. I sold it because it was too fragile for my hiking, and I was worried about tearing it up above tree line. I also hated the closure system with a passion, which takes away all the fun when out on the hill.
The 2012 version fixes all the niggles I had with the older version, so if I needed another pack, I'd buy one.
We'll see if I can convince myself I need another pack for next year. I only have two, an Ion, which is my go-to pack, and a NF Verto, which I'm in two minds about.
Bring on the Spring!!
fredDec 2, 2011 at 1:33 pm #1808035James MarcoBPL Member
@jamesdmarcoLocale: Finger Lakes
Yeah, It looks real good, but a little heavier than I like. I can live with that. I need another one after the demise of the old G5… I especially like the looks of the line locks instead of belts. Off hand it looks OK, but I need to see a good description and drop Glen a line to see what he says.
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