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  • #1281962
    David Wooten
    Member

    @sc_dave

    I sometimes think I am looking for something that does not exist.

    I am a side sleeper, I want a pillow that is soft but firm with plenty of loft.

    I want a pillow that packs small and light but doesn't disapear to nothing when I lay my head on it.

    I have tried making my on, using clothing in a case, Thermarest, Grand Trunk, air pillows all no good for me. I use buckwheat at home but that definatly does not pack light or small. Any suggestions are appreciated.
    David

    #1801722
    Ben Smith
    BPL Member

    @goosefeet

    Locale: Georgia

    What I use is a Kookabay air pillow with a down pillow on top. That gives the softness of down with the support of air underneath.

    #1801726
    doug thomas
    BPL Member

    @sparky52804

    Locale: Eastern Iowa

    I think your probably right in that it doesn't exist. I have tried several options, a very lightweight air pillow, but my head kept rolling around on it, plus it was kind of noisy. I tried a no name camp pillow, but while fairly light, it didn't pack very small. I tried making a pillow out of fiberfill and a large seal-a-meal bag with a couple of valves in it. While it was lightweight (3oz) and packed small (about the size of a 8oz popcan), it really wasn't very comfortable, it was still an air pillow. The best option so far has been a thermarest down pillow with some clothes packed in the back and the drawsting cinched down. They are available in two sizes, the heaviest at about 7 ounces. The down hlps with the softness and the clothes help with the firmness. They can be adjusted to your desired firmness, but they ain't exactly cheap. A good pillow can really make or break a nights sleep. Until I can find something better this is they way I am going.

    #1801732
    Jim Colten
    BPL Member

    @jcolten

    Locale: MN

    I do fine as a side sleeper with a three piece ensemble:
    1) 0.4oz 4x4x1 inch piece of open cell foam (10x10x2.5 cm) on top of
    2) 1.3oz kookabay pillow on top of
    3) a 4 inch (10cm) thick fanny pack that I wear in front while hiking (carries all my small things)

    I'm sure the fanny pack could be replaced by shoes in a suitably sized sack. The rolling off the air pillow thing is improved a LOT by not inflating it quite all the way.

    It's a bit of a pain keeping it all together whenever I change positions … some day I'll make some thing to hold it all together.

    #1801737
    Michael Huffman
    BPL Member

    @air2mud82

    Locale: Germany/Montana

    Have you tried the Exped pillows? They have two that I know of for side sleepers. I use the air pillow (I know, thats what I thought too) and have been tremendously happy with it. They also have one that is partial foam that I have heard nothing but good things about.

    I'm trying to find a better home pillow myself. I sometimes find hotels with pillows that I love, but can never find them for my house. Partial to Marriott's.

    #1801746
    Dale Wambaugh
    BPL Member

    @dwambaugh

    Locale: Pacific Northwest

    I use one of the Cocoon Ultralight pillows that is a hybrid inflatable/polyester fill. It has a fleece/microfiber on one side and nylon on the other.

    http://www.rei.com/product/766035/cocoon-ultralight-air-core-pillow

    #1801760
    Dave Heiss
    BPL Member

    @daveheiss

    Locale: Pacific Northwest

    +1 on the Exped air pillow. Nice height, nice softness, no noise, light. And I've tried many different pillows…

    #1801761
    Here There
    BPL Member

    @cowexnihilo

    I'm mostly a side sleeper and I found that the Exped pillow works for me, though most trips I tend to leave it at home and use my shoes under my pad or in a stuff sack.

    #1801784
    Jeff M.
    BPL Member

    @catalyst

    Check out the Arrowhead Equipment snoring bear or cub pillow. They are soft, thick, and reasonably light. They work for me as a side sleeper. Not the lightest option, but definitely the most comfortable that I've found for me.

    #1801793
    James McDaniel
    Spectator

    @bigearth

    I'm a side sleeping and have wide shoulders so I have the worse case scenario.

    What I learned works best for me over the years:

    BA AC Pillow with an Exped on Top.

    Then I decided to say, screw the ground and when to a Hammock…and love it!

    #1801808
    David Wooten
    Member

    @sc_dave

    Thanks so much folks for all you help and suggestions!
    David

    #1801874
    Derek Cox
    Spectator

    @derekcox

    Locale: Southeast

    I find the best choice to be an inflatable pillow for height, such as the kookabay ones, then a piece of 1" or so thick foam like that from a bed pad in a 6"x6" square that makes the pillow soft. A buff or pillowcase made from the material of your choosing could be added to hold it together/keep it clean for longer, but is not necessary (the foam will pretty much stay on the pillow by itself). This can be done for about 3 oz and is definitely worth it. About as comfortable as the pillow I sleep on at home.

    Edit: Didn't realize this same idea was mentioned earlier by Jim Colten, but I second his suggestion

    #1801971
    Mark Dijkstra
    Member

    @markacd

    Like so many others, I'm a side sleeper. I use my Ortlieb 4L waterbladder (filled with water and/or air) combined with a fleece or the hood of my sleeping bag as a pillow. I find this combination very comfortable and I like the fact that it doesn't add weight since I already carry the water bladder anyway.

    #1801986
    Dan Smith
    Member

    @dcsmith

    Nemo Fillo. You can make this pillow 6" tall if you so choose. And it's comfortable!

    #1801994
    Mark Primack
    BPL Member

    @bufa

    Locale: Cape Cod and Northern Newfoundland

    I'm a side sleeper, big shoulders, and constant tossing and turning. I've got Exped and Montbell air pillows, old Thermarest pillow, WM down pillow, and Integral Designs primaloft pillow. My current best solution only works in the colder seasons when I use a hooded mummy: partially inflated MB on the bottom and ID pillow inside the hood.

    #1801998
    Ike Mouser
    Member

    @isaac-mouser

    MB is best because it is long and rectangular with a semi parition on each side like this:

    [ |HEAD| ]

    What this means is that as you lay in the middle and roll, it does a better job keeping yon on it. I sleep in a hammcok with it, but also prefer it on the ground. I sent back the exped and cocoon pillows. Cocoon was nice, because of the material on the outside but i kept rolling off it. I can get the same feel by putting somethign over the mont bell.

    #1802004
    Ultra Magnus
    Member

    @ultra_magnus

    Just like to state this is something I fight with. At home my wife and I have a long body pillow that runs the width of our bed at the head board, and beyond that we have four king size down pillows to arrange around into whatever is comfiest.

    But- on our last family outing, I used the small part of the cheap walmart ccf pad from when I cut down my kids' pads, rolled up into a tube type shape. The stiffness of the material gave it some "suspension", if you will. If it had something padded on top it might make it ok comfy. I only had two to use, and my two older boys took them for themselves and I haven't tried it for myself yet. Multiple use too, if you also use it as a sit pad laid flat or whatever… part of your backpack frame… I dunno…

    BM

    #1803099
    William Hill
    BPL Member

    @rufty

    Currently using a Thermarest lumbar pillow and a Vango half moon. The lumbar pillow stays in place under my sleeping bag, on a neoair, with no problems. The half moon is inside the bag with me. Really need something lighter but this setup works very well for me.

    #1803162
    Stephen M
    BPL Member

    @stephen-m

    Locale: Way up North

    I had the same issue until I started using the Exped pillow pump.

    It is very supportive.

    #1803256
    Ginger Allman
    Member

    @gindavall

    Locale: Ozarks

    The Exped pillow is nice but not anywhere near high enough for me. So I gave it to my husband and bought the large. It's just bigger but not much thicker. If I have spare clothes I'll put it under the pillow and that helps. Contemplating trying Mike C's idea of a bunch of ziploc bags in a mesh produce bag. If I put that under my Exped pillow, maybe that would work. Still experimenting….

    #1803317
    ed hyatt
    BPL Member

    @edhyatt

    Locale: The North, Scotland

    I really like the MB and it was my solution to a similar problem.

    I raise the height of mine by using the toggle strap openings to run crossed elastics under the pillow – this space I then 'flat' stuff with clothes. Add whatever is softest as a top layer, wrap the whole thing in a cinched-down windshirt then put a base layer over that; works well for me.

    #1803578
    TJ Christopher
    BPL Member

    @compel

    I've used a travel neck pillow (soft foam) a few times and found it pretty comfortable. I toss and turn, when I'm on my back I have it around my neck as intended and otherwise I just arrange it so my head/neck feel supported. It worked well for my girlfriend too. Afraid to weigh it but maybe an inflatable would work as well.

    #1804175
    Nick Gatel
    BPL Member

    @ngatel

    Locale: Southern California

    Side sleeper here. I have a cuben stuff sack for my clothes and other things. At night I put my shoes in them (inside out if shoes are dirty), any excess clothing on top of the shoes, a 1 liter platy (with or without water) on top of the stack, wrap the draw string around the package so the platy stays on top, then I place my head on it, close my eyes, and go to sleep.

    #1943292
    Randy Martin
    BPL Member

    @randalmartin

    Locale: Colorado

    Happened on this thread and wanted to add a combination that I think might work well for me as a side sleeper. I fold up my GG Thinlight pad 1/8" and rest my Exped Air Pillow on top. This does two things, keeps the pillow from sliding around due to the grip of the Thinlight pad and adds height that I need because the Exped isn't thick enough.

    Exped Air Pillow with GG Thinlight pad

    #1943320
    Stephen M
    BPL Member

    @stephen-m

    Locale: Way up North

    I have found sticking some clothes in my Exped Snozzle pump bag makes a great pillow.

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