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Sleeping bag for Alaska

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jason hamblin BPL Member
PostedJan 5, 2007 at 2:41 pm

I will be replacing my sleeping bag for this year’s trip to Alaska and have narrowed it down to the following:

Marmot Helium EQ, 6” loft, 2Ib 3oz
WM Versalite Super, 6” loft, 2Ib
WM Ultralite Super, 5” loft, 1Ib 10oz

It will be used from the spring to the fall so will be covering a wide temperature range, the full zip is a must for easy ventilation. I used a Mountain Hardwear Phantom but the short zip made it useless in warmer weather and synthetics don’t seem to hold up after 3 months of continual use. I have no problem keeping down bags dry while in the pack and minimise/eliminate sweating with use of the full zip. I AM concerned about external moisture while in the tent, not really condensation as I can deal with that but more from moisture from several days of foggy damp weather hence the EQ version of the Helium on the list.

I had a Helium EQ but only used it on one fairly dry trip so not long enough to really test it.

I am slim and sleep fairly cold so feel the cut of the Ultralite super would be more efficient for me with a good weight saving and the 1” loss in loft that could be made up with clothes.

Any thoughts on this?, is the more weatherproof EQ worth the weight penalty?

Cheers

Jason

PostedJan 5, 2007 at 4:04 pm

I think its been stated here before but over prolonged usage the more water resistant the fabric, the worse it will fare in maintaining the insulating loft due to less efficient evacuation of insensate water vapor through the bag.

jason hamblin BPL Member
PostedJan 6, 2007 at 2:15 am

I agree about the moisture issue when its coming from inside the bag i.e perspiration and damp clothes. for me that is not an issue as I don't try to dry damp clothes inside a down bag, with a full zip perspiration is neglible due to excellent ventilation and my face is always outside of the bag. I am concerned about external moisture entering the bag and clumping the down – any thoughts on this? and whether even without sweating does your body release moisture into the bag from the inside?.

A forum search produced quite vague info on the EQ.

Douglas Frick BPL Member
PostedJan 6, 2007 at 9:01 am

>and whether even without sweating does your body release moisture into the bag from the inside?

Yes, this is called "insensible perspiration." You will find references to this on other threads on BPL, or just Google it. The amount is commonly estimated at 1/2 liter per night.

jason hamblin BPL Member
PostedJan 7, 2007 at 11:07 am

Thanks for the replies, much appreciated. My longest trip with a down bag so far has been ten days with enough good weather to air dry the bag at least once every two days. It looks like these shorter trips with patches of good weather eliminated any perceptible issue with insensible perspiration. Does anybody know how breathable the Aerolight N-090R material is that is used on the Helium EQ?, will it inhibit moisture evaporation from the inside of the bag a lot more than a standard shell?.

Cheers

Jason

jason hamblin BPL Member
PostedJan 13, 2007 at 4:20 am

For those that are interested here is the reply from Marmot:

Regarding Helium EQ Fabric,
The fabric on the Helium EQ has a waterproofness of 10,000mm rating
please a 10,000mm breathability rating. That breathable is about 30% of
our standard Helium fabric.

The EQ fabric will have the ability to trap body moisture in the bag.
The colder the outside temp the more change your going to trap moisture
in the bag. The warmer the outside air the easier it is to get the
moisture to move through the bag. It all depends on the level of
condensation warm air meeting cold air.

The biggest benefit you get from the EQ shell is that you reduce the
convection heat lost when the wind blows.

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