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Alcohol or Esbit Stove?

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EndoftheTrail BPL Member
PostedDec 29, 2006 at 4:05 pm

For those who have used or are using both…

(1) Did you convert from one to the other and never looked back? If so, which direction and why?

(2) Are you still using both? If so, when do you use which and why?

Finally, have you/can you take sealed Esbit tablets onto planes?

PostedDec 29, 2006 at 4:47 pm

I prefer Esbit but my buddy loves to experiment with alky stoves AND he works at a whiskey distillery. Hence we have all the fuel we want for free all the time and a few new stove designs to play with. I take the Esbit on my solo trips, races and a tab in my emergency fire kit. I use the alky when testing new pots or other stuff and on less "important" trips where I'm not counting weight quite so much and don't want to use the relatively more expensive Esbit tabs. My Esbit setup is lighter than anything else around and other than having to buy the fuel it has no faults for me. I have a Coleman exponent now to melt snow and some wood designs i'm playing with but for my most important weight concious trips I take the Esbit.

Never taken either on a plane..

PostedDec 29, 2006 at 5:02 pm

For weekending and other short hikes that do not require resupply, I use Esbit. I had an unfortunate experience with alcohol last year and prefer to avoid it on safety grounds. I got soaked with alcohol and torched myself while wearing a nylon shirt. Scary and painful. This was after using alcohol since 1973.

Furthermore, Esbit is the most weight-efficient fuel for any unsupported trip length.

Things change when local resupply is an issue. For the AT in '07, resupplying locally (I don't do mail drops unless absolutely necessary)I plan to use alcohol for its convenience. I recently put together a dual fuel system so I can use Esbit when it is available. Burner and pot support together weigh 0.25 oz. Not too shabby.

Why use a dual fuel system on the AT? Sometimes one fuel is easier to find than the other. I have been in towns where denatured or Everclear is 5 miles down the road, but the hardware store has a Coghlan's rack or a stack of Esbit. And sometimes the only thing available is yellow HEET and Esbit is unheard of. Versatility means not having to carry too much extra fuel.

My duel fuel system is a fiberglass insulation-filled tequilla bottle cap. Turned upside down, it's a platform for the Esbit. This works fine with tea light cups as well. I was worried that Esbit might burn through them as it burns oven-liner weight aluminum wind screens. However, they don't seem to heat up much at all.

The revelation that led to using the "tea light" stove was that I discovered accidentally that it was just as efficient as any other alcohol stove I have made (scores of them) The heat output and burn time are directly related to the diameter of the cup, and the burner should be matched to the pot diameter for greatest efficiency.

Dondo . BPL Member
PostedDec 31, 2006 at 10:04 am

I've gone back and forth with these. Esbits stink and leave a residue on your pot. Alcohol can spill. Mostly now I use a canister stove. For very weight-conscious trips, I'd use Esbit.

PostedDec 31, 2006 at 7:20 pm

I too have used both an Esbit and alcohol, and now prefer a cannister stove. A Pocket rocket and MSR cannister system can last me about a week in the Sierras.

However, in my search for a lighter stove system, and since I am a beekeeper with unlimited access to nature's best fuel, I am testing beeswax as a cooking fuel.

In some preliminary tests, I have found that 6 grams of pure beeswax in egg carton molds will heat 8 oz of water in approx. 5 minutes. Problem is that the egg shell cartons put out a lot of carbon that coats the outside of a pot, so I am continuing to research non carbon producing molds for my beeswax cooking candles.

However, I have found that beeswax egg shell molds make great fire starters.

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