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PostedOct 4, 2011 at 6:13 am

I am embarking on a 5 day trip tomorrow morning in the Smokies and thought I was happy with my layering system but laying in bed at night I couldn't help but wonder if what I am carrying is overkill. I am trying to shed some bulk if possible but the gear I have is what I have.
Currently I am planning on carrying the following, either on me or in the pack.

base layer, thin Merino wool long sleeve shirt
long sleeve synthetic shirt
short sleeve lightweight under armour button up shirt
Columbia Titanium fleece
Mountain Hardware Zonal jacket (Just got this and love the construction, also feels toasty)
Sherpa rain jacket

So even typing it out feels like to much.

The temps are probably going to be in the 70s during the day and high 20s – mid 30s at night.
I will be hammocking and have a 3/4 down UQ as well as a down REI sierra, rated 30, sleeping bag to be used as a TQ.

So what do you guys think, should I drop a couple of the above?

PostedOct 4, 2011 at 6:21 am

base layer, thin Merino wool long sleeve shirt
long sleeve synthetic shirt
short sleeve lightweight under armour button up shirt

Technically you only need one of these, if you think you might need sleeves take the merino.

Columbia Titanium fleece
Mountain Hardware Zonal jacket (Just got this and love the construction, also feels toasty)

Again just one.

Sherpa rain jacket

what about your legs?

PostedOct 4, 2011 at 6:31 am

Thank you!

I know that I will get hot during the day but at night I would like something to cover my arms while not having to wear something heavier at first. That being said, I do have a tech shirt that is lightweight. I think I will bring Merino and this T or possibly just the merino and roll the sleeves up.

I am torn between the fleece and zonal jacket. The wind cuts through the fleece though so maybe the zonal is the better option here, it also packs down to nothing and only weighs 15 oz according to the mails scale here at work.

Legs I am not to worried about. I have a pair of fleece lined cycling tights and zip off nike pants this combo has kept me warm down to 14ËšF. I could cut weight and just take the shorts part of the pants though.

PostedOct 4, 2011 at 6:36 am

Another reason I am having a hard time is that I seem to be going through some, lol. changes. I am a skinny guy, 155lb 6' tall, and traditionally I am easily chilled, but starting this time last year I noticed that I was staying warmer and my normal system was just to much. I went on a three day'er in the spring and crawled out of the sleeping bag in 30Ëš weather because I was sweating so bad and couldn't sleep due to heat. Seems that I am going through some sort of just hit the 30 year mark manapause or something. lol

Mike M BPL Member
PostedOct 4, 2011 at 6:48 am

the merino long sleeve (if of lightweight) should easily suffice as your base layer- nothing more needed. I use mine well into the 80's w/o much drama.

sounds like one insulating piece is sufficient, pick the one best for the temps- if equal pick the lighter one

I think what should be left behind doesn't get near the play that it should, it plays a bigger role IMO on weight than having the absolute lightest x piece of gear AND it's much cheaper :)

PostedOct 4, 2011 at 7:59 am

I'd take these because I generally don't like long sleeves unless the temps are < 20F, especially if daytime temps will be in the 70's.

short sleeve lightweight under armour button up shirt
Mountain Hardware Zonal jacket
Sherpa rain jacket

Jerry Adams BPL Member
PostedOct 4, 2011 at 8:05 am

base layer, fleece, jacket probably won't be warm enough hanging around in the morning or in the evening

base layer, Zonal, jacket would probably be warmer

if in the morning you immediately pack up and start walking maybe you'll be okay with fleece

PostedOct 4, 2011 at 8:11 am

I am thinking I will leave my trusty fleece and try out the zonal. This will be my first trip out with it so I need to trust it or return it. Guess if I get a chill I can take my UQ off the hammock and wrap up.

James holden BPL Member
PostedOct 4, 2011 at 8:50 am

the zonal jacket is a synth, not down jacket … be sure its good enough for you down to the temps you expect

id take a short sleeve as im hawt n sweaty so the gurls say ;)

for a 5 day trip, make sure you have the right gear … you dont want to feel cold or bail

PostedOct 4, 2011 at 9:47 am

No worries on the bailing. I will be good to go. If anything I could weigh my fleece and syn long sleeve and take the lighter of the two.

PostedOct 14, 2011 at 8:04 am

Just wanted to give a big thanks to those that helped. I ended up taking a tec cotton short sleeve, long sleeve wool base, and the zonal jacket. I was more than comfy. I could have left the tshirt but I am glad I didn't due to how warm the days got.

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