Dec 18, 2006 at 5:55 am #1220859
@earthdwellerLocale: North Carolina
Steep and Cheap has Helly Hansen Zone jackets for about $66. The listed weight is 2 ounces, they have pit zips, a hood, and are supposed to be waterproof/breathable. It seems that there must be a catch, but, at the very least, the weight and features are advertised consistently on other sites (so SAC didn't make a mistake).Dec 18, 2006 at 10:35 am #1371432
Dang! Missed it!
But I find it hard to believe that a wp/b jacket with hood, full zip and pit zips can weigh just 1.9 oz! Any owners out there who care to comment?Dec 19, 2006 at 4:56 am #1371528
@dmannLocale: Colorado Rockies
I managed to get one before they sold out. Haven't received it yet, but plan on giving it some testing when it arrives. I agree- a WP/B jacket with that feature set for 2oz. seems unlikely to me, especially one that isn't a "household name" among the UL crowd, but we shall see…Dec 19, 2006 at 9:43 pm #1371657
The plot thickens..
SAC and a HH customer rep. are sticking by the 59g weight claim.
"Thanks for letting us know about your concern about the Zone Jacket you recently purchased. Apparently you're under the impression that the jacket you bought has been advertised as the wrong weight. I don't know where you
received that information but I checked the Helly Hansen home site and it gave the same information as we have on our site. I also took the time to call our Helly Hansen contact and they pulled out one of their dealer catalogs they have and also verfied the weight of that jacket.
If there is anything else we can do for you please let us know.
Customer Service Representative
SteepandCheap Customer Service
..So I am eagerly awaiting my "59g" jacket with full zip, three pockets, pit zips, full hood, adjustable hood, waist string, etc.. does it defy the laws of physics? This could replace a quiver of other windshirts and rain jackets..
Anyone received theirs yet and can confirmt the 10oz weight we all expect?Dec 19, 2006 at 10:19 pm #1371664
"If there is anything else we can do for you please let us know."
This line makes me want to write to them and use very small words.
Like… I dunno…
"Yes, there is something else you can do. You can stop "verifying" the weight by looking at references that are already in question, and put your product on a SCALE!!!!!!
Try doing some Customer Service you numbtard!"Dec 20, 2006 at 1:40 am #1371680
Exactly JR; it's circular reasoning. Using the source I'm sugggesting is wrong to tell me it is correct. I need to unleash our man p.j. on these guys; he could pepper about a dozen customer service reps with technical reasons why the jacket could (or could not) weigh 59g, until they scream for mercy and weigh the darn thing. But instead of calling out the 'big guns', I'll just wait quietly for the jacket to arrive.Dec 20, 2006 at 4:04 am #1371685
@pjLocale: LazyBoy in my Den - miss the forest
i really don't know much of anything about materials. i'm just jumping into this Thread "midstream", so to speak since i notice a reference to my inits in one of your Posts.
i don't know if this observation has been made already, so please excuse me if this is "reruns", so to speak.
i do, however, have it from a good source that the jacket in question does actually weigh 59g – on the moon. sorry, i don't really have anything substantive to offer on this one.
here's why i think the weight is in error: does anyone really think that a full-featured 59g jacket would have escaped the notice of DrJ and BPL.com? I rest my case.Dec 20, 2006 at 10:23 am #1371712
frank martinBPL Member
I know they had an incorrect weight (off by a mere 1lb 8oz.) on a Sierra Designs 0 degree sleeping bag a couple of weeks ago.
I checked the SD website and it listed it as 1.6oz more the on S&C. I also checked BGT.org for the weight and got the 1#8oz figure.
I posted a comment on S&C and got 'flamed' not by them but by other posters.
No good deed goes unpunished.Dec 20, 2006 at 10:53 am #1371716
@scottalanpLocale: Northern California
Your "flame" reference only confirms my suspicion that the SAC website has spawned a tribe of junkies, who for no other reason sit around buying stuff at "great prices". I suppose everyone needs a hobby and an identity.Dec 20, 2006 at 11:10 am #1371722
With sale items as UGLY as these, I'm not worried about becoming a SAC junkie!Dec 20, 2006 at 1:25 pm #1371742
FYI – They're trying to run through 100 deals today. There were a couple I would have liked to get but missed. Keeping my eye out for some smartwool or Ibex or Icebreaker shirts…Dec 20, 2006 at 2:00 pm #1371747
yeah, i've been watching all day, and haven't been able to catch anything that i want to buy. if any smartwools or icebreakers go up, they're going to disappear immediately. sadly.Dec 20, 2006 at 2:21 pm #1371752
@havocLocale: North Texas
Hey Joshua and Justin,
Try http://www.backcountryoutlet.com. They have some pretty good deals on Smartwool clothes currently. I didn't search for Icebreaker or Ibex. Best of luck snagging a good deal.Dec 20, 2006 at 2:33 pm #1371758
Yup, that's the sister / sponsor site to SAC. It's hard to swallow "only" 25% off, when SAC deals are like 60% off.
Call me cheap, but then again, I'm in no rush to get one so I don't mind riding the SAC train for a while. ;)
Then again, Dicks Sporting Goods just started carrying Smartwool clothes and I've got a 100$ gift cert burning a hole in my pocket that I earned through a fitness initiative at work.Dec 21, 2006 at 9:22 am #1371851
The Mars jacket is Helly Hansens 2.2 oz.jacket. I have one that I use for Running, MTN biking or just for a lightweight layer when I travel it packs down to nothing. N
The Zone is a 2.5 layer full stretch WP / Breathable jacket that is built to the E-Lite standard it weighs in around 20 oz in a mens Med. It's light just not 2.2 oz. light like the Mars.Dec 21, 2006 at 12:07 pm #1371882
Dale WambaughBPL Member
@dwambaughLocale: Pacific Northwest
Hehehe– fashion has it's price. They are trying to close the stuff out. I can't tell you how many times I've seen an eye-popping price on line only to find the only size left is XS or XXXXXXL. There's no free lunch :)
Now that jacket would look real nice on the right female form. The color of those shorts might be appealing to other cultures– check out the Jamaican flag and you'll see what I mean. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gallery_of_sovereign-state_flags
I've learned to expand the color of my wardrobe via my thrift store wanderings, and in most cases for the better. Even my wife thinks so!
I got a pair of Salomon GTX Mid boots last night for $27. Can't complain about that. THe color choices were mousey brown or mousey gray. Woow woow!Dec 21, 2006 at 3:39 pm #1371895
my size small weighed in at 13.6 oz. I was thinking that i would definitely keep it if it weighed 10 oz. or less. but it's not much lighter than my golite jacket. I'm still debating whether to return it.
the fabric seems nice, and really light. but there is a lot of extranious things going on that i'm not thrilled about. on the other hand, it's pretty stylish. I really like the slim fit.Dec 21, 2006 at 4:03 pm #1371899
Roger BBPL Member
Small sized what?
Helly Hansen Jacket perhaps?Dec 21, 2006 at 4:24 pm #1371902
yeah. sorry. i assumed that because the HH zone jacket was the thread title, it went without saying.
the zippers are really heavy on this thing.Dec 21, 2006 at 5:03 pm #1371906
Roger BBPL Member
No Problems, how do you get 2 oz and 13 oz for the same item?
Perhaps HH should be saying "our bad" or … maybe they should have said 12 oz. or maybe as a Norwegian company they intended to say 200 gram, which is 7 oz. Or maybe ????
I think I will stick to my Montane and GoLite gearDec 21, 2006 at 5:27 pm #1371914
FWIW, I emailed Helly Hansen to point out the weight discrepancy. Hopefully, they will correct the info. on their website.
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