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Gore Windstopper- breathability

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PostedSep 9, 2011 at 1:15 pm

Does anyone have the breathability rating for this material? In real world use, does it perform well in that regard?

Thanks.

James holden BPL Member
PostedSep 9, 2011 at 8:48 pm

mediocre … its a laminate … some windstopper jackets are a tad more breathable than others, but in general i find them no better than event and thats a WPB fabric

Arapiles . BPL Member
PostedSep 10, 2011 at 4:52 am

Windstopper is actually OK just a bit outdated now (still, I think that "zilch" may be a bit harsh) – when Activent first came out it was a good product (I still love my now wrecked Patagonia Pneumatic), being more breathable than a lot of the windproofs then available, and waterproof enough that Areality used to talk about seam-sealing one to see if it would work better than Gore-Tex. But these days, for pure windproofness and breathability, it loses out to Pertex (but is maybe a bit more water resistant) and as someone said, eVent is in practice as breathable but fully waterpoof. I have a new Gore WS bike gilet which certainly cuts the wind, but the entire back is mesh, so I'd be surprised if I ever got any condensation.

PostedSep 10, 2011 at 5:52 am

I'm pretty sure 'Windstopper' is the original Goretex waterproof fabric. The original goretex eventually let in rain, so they added the pu smear.
They rebranded it as soft-shell Windstopper, when softshells became fashionable.
So it's as breathable as a waterproof shell. :)

PostedSep 10, 2011 at 5:53 am

A lot of the insulated jackets I'm looking at use this material so this is a real concern. Do pit-zips at all mitigate the low(er) breathability?

PostedSep 10, 2011 at 6:24 am

Do you need the rain protection of Windstopper?
If you are already carrying a waterproof shell, there are much lighter options.

PostedSep 10, 2011 at 6:55 am

I do need some level of waterproofness. I find layering uncomfortable and a hassle, so jackets that will work in more number of conditions will be ideal.

Arapiles . BPL Member
PostedSep 11, 2011 at 4:16 am

"I'm pretty sure 'Windstopper' is the original Goretex waterproof fabric. The original goretex eventually let in rain, so they added the pu smear.
They rebranded it as soft-shell Windstopper, when softshells became fashionable.
So it's as breathable as a waterproof shell. :)"

Gore were always pretty vague about how WS related to GTX: there was a story that an insider had said that the pores were simply bigger, so that it was more breathable than GTX but less waterproof.

PostedSep 11, 2011 at 9:30 am

is this the same stuff manzella makes gloves out of ? because they work fantastic. for however as thick as they are, and it's not much, they support an astonishingly high temperature differential. by that i mean, i can go out on my bike on a nippy night, and my hands are cool but not frozen like the rest of me. and they are thin enough too, that i can layer them under my normal fleece gloves and be fine all day long when it's well under freezing pulling a sled out on the ice (quite breezy)
on the other hand, i do own an entire top made of N2S and have never found the "right place" to wear it. but for gloves, it's excellent.

v.

PostedSep 12, 2011 at 8:31 pm

i have a pair of mountain hardwear vertex pants made from stretchy windstopper. they've been worn a handful of times on winter day hikes. the breathability is okay, better than powershield imo. they can get pretty warm while on the move but these pants have a full length zipper which makes it easy to vent. i like them but the vents are key to staying cool. they totally block the wind and don't ever seem to get wet.

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