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PostedSep 2, 2011 at 4:12 pm

Hi there.

Could someone advise a complete beginner with no experience of sewing machines?

I'm planning on making some backpacking gear and have ordered some sil-nylon, thread, cord and cord-locks to make a few stuff-sacks – to get me started.

Would the kind of sewing machine linked to in the following url be good enough to sew sil-nylon and the kind of materials used for backpacks?

http://direct.hobbycraft.co.uk/products-Brother-XL-2130NT-Sewing-Machine_283085.htm

I may end up looking for something secondhand but any general tips would be welcome.

Thanks.

PostedSep 2, 2011 at 5:51 pm

Pete,

Welcome the the forums.

I don't know anything about that specific model, but the groupthink seems to be to stay clear of newer, plastic-geared machines. The consensus seems to be that Singer made some very nice sewing machines (401, 500) back in the day and that you can often find them on Craigslist, estate sales, or dropping hints with the older ladies in your life that you're looking to get into sewing. I trust Javan's knowledge in this area and if I recall correctly made most of his early gear on a 500. Again, if I recall correctly, now he's using a Juki 8700 which is a lightweight industrial, but that can be $$$.

The in-built search feature is no good here, but you can use Google to search the forums like so: "site:http//www.backpackinglight.com/ SEARCHTERM" less the quotes and where "SEARCHTERM" is your search term. Here are some threads on sewing machine selection:

http://www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-bin/backpackinglight/forums/thread_display.html?forum_thread_id=551

http://www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-bin/backpackinglight/forums/thread_display.html?forum_thread_id=12592

http://www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-bin/backpackinglight/forums/thread_display.html?forum_thread_id=33394

http://www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-bin/backpackinglight/forums/thread_display.html?forum_thread_id=18128

http://www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-bin/backpackinglight/forums/thread_display.html?forum_thread_id=44773

http://www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-bin/backpackinglight/forums/thread_display.html?forum_thread_id=47836

Good luck! and make sure to take pictures of your projects in-process and when they're done. We love MYOG pictorials.

PostedSep 2, 2011 at 6:10 pm

Pete,
In addition to the older Singers suggested by Pilate, there were the Kenmores.
Roger Caffin posted that one way to ID them is that they are all metal.
If you can't afford a factory machine, they are a good 2d choice and way less costly.
My Kenmore is over 30 years old, and I can still get the Sears repair centers to work on it when necessary. Haven't seen any home machine that is any better for making gear. And have seen a lot worse among the more recent models, of which I have three gathering dust, including a White that was labelled, "industrial."
Good luck.

PostedSep 3, 2011 at 2:26 pm

@ Pilate de Guerre and Samuel,

Many thanks for your helpful comments and advice.

In the first instance I'll be asking some friends who do a lot of sewing projects and perhaps borrow a machine. I'll also work my way through the threads linked to above.

I'll certainly post photos of my projects once I get going.

Thanks again guys.

CW BPL Member
PostedSep 3, 2011 at 2:38 pm

My first machine was a new Singer from a big box store. It was crap and broke way too soon. The repair would've been more than I paid for the machine. I got lucky, and was handed down an older Kenmore from a relative. That machine is all metal and sews fine, but has no pressure foot adjustment which I found can be pretty important when sewing a variety of fabrics. Javan and I are both using Brother DB2-B755 industrial machines that I found locally. We got a steal on them and didn't pay much more than a quality new home machine runs. The catch with industrial machines is that they're generally single-purpose. The B755 I have is great for very light to maybe midweight fabrics. If you plan to sew quilts, tarps, hammocks, etc. something like it would be great. If you plan to do mostly packs, I'd look for a good walking foot machine. A zigzag machine might also come in handy. A quality older home machine will get you straight and zigzag but will pale in comparison to an industrial as far as power and speed go. It all depends on how much sewing you plan to do.

PostedSep 3, 2011 at 6:45 pm

Might have mentioned that mine is a Model 1947 (model #, not year) Zig Zag, and it does have adjustable pressure for the foot. The only way I've used it is to release the adjuster entirely when trying to put really thick work under the foot – makes it easier when I can push the foot up with a pinky. When the work is in place, I push the adjuster back down.

The machine sews a whole variety of different stitches, not just a zig-zag.
Since I don't do decorative sewing, it is more than enough for tents, packs and other gear. When the work is too thick for the motor to power the needle to penetrate, I use the wheel on the right end of the machine. Crude, but it works.

Also experiment with different needles sizes, points, thread tensions and threads before sewing thicker work. It will not sew the heavier threads, like C&C Button and Carpet, or the heavier Gutermann, but have had no need for them – they are overkill.

The only thing I don't like about it is that you have to hold down a lever with the right hand to sew in reverse, making it hard to keep both hands on the work, although I've tried. Same problem when using the wheel to push the needle through, but that is seldom necessary.

The rheostat on the pedal in also some kind of ancient thing that sizzles when it gets hot – spliced in a modern one from a Brother, but when the Kenmore eventually went to Sears for maintenance they reinstalled one of the older pedals and kept the Brother. Still sizzles, but no electrical fires yet. Maybe I will pick up a better pedal from a sewing store and resplice it in.

PostedSep 21, 2011 at 11:36 pm

Looking for the right sewing machine can be tough considering there are so many out on the market today. You may want to embellish you child’s clothing or you may want to quilt; they are many different machines for many different situations.


URL deleted.
Getting a bit too commercial there, especially as this is your first posting and your URL was not really relevant to UL backpacking.

Roger Caffin
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