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Need high top minimalist shoe!

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Justin Baker BPL Member
PostedAug 26, 2011 at 11:04 pm

I am in a huge shoe dilemma. First off, I am somewhat of a shoe minimalist. These days I hike in regular canvas Van's classic shoes. Pretty plain, simple, with a sole at just the right thickness. Works fine, just not durable.
The problem is around here in the Oak Savaahnas during late summer/early fall we get stickers and pokey things. It's so bad that I used to duct tape my pants to my shoes when hunting with my dad.
I get all kinds of stuff falling into my shoes. I tried going with high top converse and pants, which solved part of the issue, but I am still getting stuff in my shoes. When I step, especially uphill, the shoe flexes as my foot bends, leaving a crease or folding gap between the tongue and the rest of the shoe and letting stuff get under the tongue and into the shoe.
Basically, what I need is a somewhat high top shoe, that will be completely sealed from any thorns or stickers or anything you get from grasslands, and it needs to be minimalist! Thinnish sole, not heading towards barefoot by not boot thickness. And the sole needs to be flat.
Do you know of any good chukka style shoes out there that would fit the bill? Leather would be nice for durability and keeping off the thorns. I have considered sewing the tongue of the converse onto the top of the shoe to seal it. That would make it pretty sealed from stuff, but is kind of a weird fix. And I would rather have something more durable.

PostedAug 27, 2011 at 7:01 am

Sorry, Justin, it doesn't quite get to your question but I do second the gaiters suggestion. With the right pair of gaiters you have your coverage and you can wear just about any kind of shoe. Perhaps you'll still want your leather uppers, but most likely, there'll still be at least a small issue with things creeping in at the top. I love my gaiters.

Brendan S BPL Member
PostedAug 27, 2011 at 8:04 am

Agree with the above; Dirty Girls are awesome and will do much more than any change of shoe would. Cheap, light, and they work.

Monty Montana BPL Member
PostedAug 30, 2011 at 9:26 pm

Yeah, Dirty Girl gaiters will do the job, but they require that velcro patches be glued to the shoe. I prefer the gaiters from Simblisity…they don't use glue-ons and stay put just fine. Also, they have little loops at the bottom for a retainer cord in case you happen to need to posthole across a snowfield.

PostedAug 31, 2011 at 7:09 am

The closest thing I can think of is the high top shoes from Inov-8. The problem is their current high top shoes have a narrow last that I find too narrow for fast long walks, and unfortunately they're now only available with a goretex liner. I would love it if they made a high top shoe off of their Terroc shoe line or with their new anatomical last, but without the goretex liner. Like you, I also prefer high tops because they keep debris out of my shoes without the hassle of gaiters.

PostedAug 31, 2011 at 8:03 am

Salomon makes a 3/4 version of their xa pro. Not the lightest model they make but it has been my favorite backpacking shoe for the last 3 revisions of it. The lowtop model that is.

PostedAug 31, 2011 at 1:54 pm

Terra Plana has a new pair of boots coming to their Vivobarefoot line soon. Like the new and seemingly awesome Neo Trails, they're lugged, although I think the boots are supposed to be WPB, which makes them sort of suspect in my book.

That said, I've never had as "Minimal" a minimalist shoe experience with ANY minimalist shoe as my TPs. I'm ordering some Neo Trails this week.

I'm sure Damien can comment more if he sees this thread, I think he's seen them both first hand.

Of course, now that I'm reading your post, I see that you're looking for something more minimal than boot, but not actually "barefoot type footwear" which is what I generally consider (and I think the masses do also) "minimalist shoes"… So maybe these will be too minimal for you. TPs aren't "thinnish" they're decidedly *thin* soled, although they seem to be much more durable than the VFFs.

Conor Robinson BPL Member
PostedAug 31, 2011 at 5:25 pm

Have you looked at the Roclite boot from Innov8 before?

http://www.inov-8.com/Products-Detail.asp?PG=PG1&L=27&P=5050973059

That said, I would agree with the others here that a light shoe with an ankle gaiter would be just as good. I personally hike in a pair of Salomon XA Pros with the Salomon SLAB running gaiters… I recently bought a pair of the NB Minimus Trails; gonna try them out this weekend in Yoho National Park with the same gaiters, curious to see how my feet hold up with such a minimal shoe.

Tyler H BPL Member
PostedAug 31, 2011 at 6:18 pm

How about some Chuck Taylors.

I've seen them used as canoe boots because they drain well and provide some ankle support and dirt protection.

PostedAug 31, 2011 at 6:32 pm

Roclites (and Inov-8s in general) are tricky, and wouldn't be considered minimal by many purists, myself included. In fact, I've never had as much foot discomfort as I did when I tried to love the 390s.

Inov-8's "performance" last, is only anatomical (read: comfortable), if you've been taping your feet to narrow them for 10 years, or you size up about 3 sizes (Chris :p ), they've got a more "anatomical" last, that they've for some reason neglected to make any shoes relevant for our purposes out of, although they've got one just out, or coming out soon I've heard.

For many I think ample roominess, especially in the toe box, is one of the core elements a minimalist shoe has to be built on, along with a few other things, like zero or marginal heel lift and arch support, thin soles, etc..

It's just my opinion, but until Inov-8 starts leveraging their anatomical last, I'd hardly consider them minimal (only if by comparison to the mainstream offenders, but not on the level of the other companies taking it seriously). I'm also seriously curious (and mildly angry) that it's taken so long, considering their brand posturing, and logo. Yeah sorry, obviously I've got a serious chip on my shoulder about Inov-8, apologies if it's not relevant to the OP.

Edit: This is a serious YMMV, and I know I'm kind of tirading about it, but seriously don't even consider buying Inov-8's online unless you already know they fit your feet, I can almost guarantee that if they do, it'll be in a larger size than usual.

PostedSep 1, 2011 at 8:52 am

Update regarding Terra Plana: Apparently they've got a lugged sole (like the neo trail), mid and high top trail boot available now also, called the Off-Road.

Looks pretty promising. I don't think these are WPB, I'm not sure they're the model I was thinking of that was supposed to be introduced next year.. The weights on the mid are actually listed as about 100g lower than the Neo Trail, but since these are all new models that just popped up, I think there may be some discrepancy. For those of you that prefer minimal footwear, but like the classic trail boot aesthetic, I think these will be right up your alley.

Pricey however. I can say that Terra Plana makes a top quality product. They also run awesome sales pretty regularly too, so you may be able to score some cheaper. Figure out what size you need before hand. I wear about a 9.5 in sneakers generally, a 41 in VFFs, but find the 43's to be ideal with TPs shoes.

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