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PostedAug 9, 2011 at 2:19 pm

I have no direct experience with inflatable pads as I use CCF but I had to help a friend in search of an inflatable replacement and I’m inclined to recommend one of these air-only pads. I have more than enough info about the Neo-Air but it turns out too expensive. Then there’s these two:

POE Ether Compact 6

Camp Essential Light Mat

to which I have quick, local access.

There’s quite some info available on the POE one whose R value seems to be 2.0 – 3.0 but I don’t know exactly what that variation means… different insulation in different areas, maybe? How can that be in an air-only mat?

Camp has no information about R values (I already asked the brand).

The intended use is 3 season, for a reasonably cold-sleeping lady that no matter what inflatable mat, will use a 1 cm (2/5″) CCF pad under it.

My question is: would you recommend any of those two mats? I particulary wonder about the Camp Essential Light for several reasons: on the plus side, it’s incredibly light and compact, it’s good quality stuff and a reasonable price. On the minus, I don’t have the R value neither any user experience; it’s non-insulated, quite thin (just 3.5 cm or 1 2/5 “).

I’d love first hand experience, particularly with the Camp mat but also your qualified opinion given the intended use. If everything turns out wrong, I’ll take the blame myself :)

PostedAug 9, 2011 at 2:44 pm

My only input is that I think there is a consensus that air-only mats in general (no insulation of any kind, just a nylon balloon) have an R-value of about 1, regardless of thickness (within a reasonable range).

Also, be wary of POE's R-value numbers. They are famous for not even trying to be plausible when grossly exaggerating those numbers. They claimed an R-value of 20, for example, for one of their aerogel mats, and it was tested by the author of a BPL article and found to be 6. They routinely publish made-up numbers twice as high as the theoretical maximum for the materials in the mat, and three times higher than the actual value.

Joshua Gray BPL Member
PostedAug 9, 2011 at 5:46 pm

You might want to consider Kooka Bay (kookabay.com) pads made by Bender on BPL. Probably the lightest pad for the price, but not sure of his int'l shipping policies.

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