Title says it all what's the lightst torso maybe a bit longer pad that has a r value of 2ish I would like it under 4 ounces with a minimum length of 35in andminimum width of 18in?
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Lightest foam torso-3/4 length pad with r value of 2+
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My vote is for http://gossamergear.com/sleeping/nightlight-sleeping-pad-torso-length.html
3.5oz $16.
I know it doesn’t meet your length but it works. Or you could just cut your own size from http://gossamergear.com/sleeping/nightlight-sleeping-pad-3-4.html
My teenage daughter has been using the torso pad exclusively the last 5 years for backpacking and car camping with bumps up. I can use it with a heavy dose of Vitamin T with bumps down (IMHO- softer).
This pad easily insulates from a 25-30F ground.
However I prefer my short Neoair. I even find it more comfortable than the regular length neoair.
-Barry
while i have the neo-air short, wouldnt mind replacing my dying old zrest (or wahtever cascade designs made in color orange with eggcrate) — but absolutely not looking for egg crate. i find it terrible for collecting condensation or grit–you can't just 'wipe it down' with a cloth like a flat surface.
i wonder how sleepable 3/8th inch is.. i am a stomach sleeper so i bet its not so great. thinking of:
http://shop.bivysack.com/product.sc?productId=80&categoryId=3
at 7.5oz still a bit lighter than neo-air short, puncture proof, can be used as sit pad easy at a break.
is Plastazote Foam same as Evazote and all the others advertised? Anyone have any other suggestions for a mid (~60in) length non eggshell high quality 'zote' pad?
sorry for thread splintering.
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Plastazote® Foam
Plastazote foam is a closed cell cross-linked polyethylene foam available in a wide range of polymer combinations. These combinations allow the material to exhibit different characteristics such as increased rigidity, improved temperature resistance and improved moulding ability. Lightweight, tough, flexible, moisture resistant, C.F.C. & H.C.F.C. free, that is easily fabricated, chemically inert and resistant to oils, solvents, dilute acids, UV light etc. Plastazote is available in a wide range of colours and used in many applicatiions including:
Plastazote foam is a closed cell cross-linked polyethylene foam available in a wide range of polymer combinations. These combinations allow the material to exhibit different characteristics such as increased rigidity, improved temperature resistance and improved moulding ability. Lightweight, tough, flexible, moisture resistant, C.F.C. & H.C.F.C. free, that is easily fabricated, chemically inert and resistant to oils, solvents, dilute acids, UV light etc. Plastazote is available in a wide range of colours and used in many applicatiions including:
Packaging
Drawer & shelf lining
Splints and wrist supports
Protective sports padding
Materials handling
Gaskets & seals
Joint filling
Camping mats
Anti-vibration mounts
Educational toys
Evazote® Foam
Evazote is a closed cell cross-linked ethylene vinyl accetate (EVA) copolymer foam similar to Plastazote giving it a more “rubbery” feel. As with the Plastazote range certain grades of Evazote are conductive and are available in a range of colours. The applications for Evazote are similar to that of Plastazote, although it is particularly suited where the extra resilience may be of benefit. Evazote foam is produced in a range of densities from 30kg/m3 – 120kg/m3
The Evazote range of foams are tougher and more resilient than the equivalent Plastazote foams and are used extensively in sporting and footwear applications where repeated impacts are sustained.
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Taken from this site:
http://www.paulamar.co.uk/foam/materials.aspx
Lots of other good info on other "zotes" foam too…
I guess I could have taken the onus upon myself to research it like I normally do, when I mused. But thank you much! Looks like evazote is what I want, of those two zotes.
wonder what the future holds for cubezote and ti-zote
dont know R value but lots use a gossamer torso pad 3.5 oz on top of a full lenght 1/8" pad 2.5oz . total would be 6 oz. Gossamer had a production run of 2.5 oz torso pads a while back, that two of them together is 60" and 5.2 oz
In a similar density, Plastazote is slightly lighter, Evazote slightly tougher. Changing
the density makes more difference in toughness vs lightness in my experience.
For example, I have a Mt Washington pad, EVA, light density that I like very much.
It has a large tear in it from just rolling it up roughly. I also have some plastizote
pads that are half the thickness, but in 16% greater density that take much more
rough treatment without tearing.
Either has an R value in common sleeping pad densities of around 4 per inch of thickness.
Choose the lighter densities for lighter weight, heavier for tear resistance
and compression set over time.
So you would want a pad 1/2" thick and in a density of about LD24.
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