- Jul 25, 2019 at 1:36 am #3603341
whateverJul 25, 2019 at 1:48 am #3603343
Did a 5-day Wonderland Trail trek with some friends new and old (one new friend is doing the PCT and took a break from it to come do the Wonderland). We got very lucky with the weather, beautiful sunny days without being too warm, cool nights. Only had skeeter problems two of the four nights. A couple of sketchy parts including a recent washout on a very steep chute and a steep snow section (though we did not have nor did we need spikes), other than that the trail was in fine condition.
We started at White River and went counterclockwise. Camped at Carbon River, Golden Lakes, Devil’s Dream and Nickel Creek.
Here’s an elevation profile of the trail:
A few pics.Jul 25, 2019 at 2:42 am #3603349Jerry AdamsBPL Member
@retiredjerryLocale: Oregon and Washington
so you decided to go ahead and do it. Great opportunity, hard to get reservations.
93 miles in 5 days, nice pace
great pics. I have never seen a marmot beforeJul 25, 2019 at 3:07 am #3603354
This particular marmot cracked me up. S/he was with another marmot on one side of the trail, as we approached this one suddenly scampered across the trail and then promptly plopped down in the grass on the other side. No idea if it thought it was hiding or what. They were about 5 feet in front of us (have never gotten that close to a marmot before). When we finally moved forward they both bolted.Jul 25, 2019 at 3:14 am #3603356
I have never seen a marmot before
Seriously, Jerry?Jul 25, 2019 at 1:52 pm #3603390Jeffs ElevenBPL Member
5 days on the WT is no joke. Good trail! We stayed at a lot of the same places. I think devils dream is so named for the skeeters.Jul 25, 2019 at 2:35 pm #3603395William ChiltonBPL Member
Some fantastic photos there. It looks a great place. Thanks for sharing them.Jul 25, 2019 at 2:51 pm #3603396
They were about 5 feet in front of us (have never gotten that close to a marmot before).
Probably looking for a handout. Marmots are naturally wary, but when knuckleheads feed them they become habituated and can be quite annoying. I once had to eat breakfast standing up and walking around to keep one off me:Jul 25, 2019 at 3:27 pm #3603398Jerry AdamsBPL Member
@retiredjerryLocale: Oregon and Washington
yeah, I know that’s weird not to have seen a marmot before : )
in the Wallowas I saw a coyote walk by. Doug was talking to two people with dog which distracted the Coyote so he didn’t notice me. He got out of there pretty quickly. I wasn’t able to get a good picture.Jul 25, 2019 at 4:22 pm #3603405jscottBPL Member
@bookLocale: Northern California
wow in the Sierra marmots are everywhere. I remember once seeing one feasting on a giant bag of M and M’s that was on the grass next to a filled bear canister with the lid off. The owners of the canister were crashed out in their tent right next to this. In other news, you also have to actually wear a seat belt for it to be effective.
I agree that Doug’s pace was admirable. that isn’t an easy hike!
The year I did a partial circuit there was a bad washout on a very steep cliff/hill that plunged into a river far below. Interesting moment. Luckily there were shrubby hand holds.
My favorite part was walking up the ridge that adjoins Rainier just past Mystic Lake. There was constant rockfall down the glaciers there,. Unsettling because you can’t immediately or ever see the rockfall. On the ridge you’re safe but the sound is unnerving. Some camp on that ridge; I wonder how they sleep.Jul 25, 2019 at 6:12 pm #3603424Katherine .BPL Member
Whoa, yeah, Jerry has never seen a marmot?! How could that possibly be? I hike in the same places and have a tiny fraction of his experience and I’ve seen at least four. The one up at Summerland a couple years ago didn’t seem to want a handout, but wasn’t going to stop mowing down on the flowers just cause I was walking by.
Impressive pace Doug!
Question for you: Were any of the sketchy bits in Spray/Seattle Park? I’m doing a loop of that (Ipsut/Cataract Valley/Eagles Roost/Ipsut) with my daughter soon. She can handle herself on snowfields (and I even found microspikes that’ll fit kids size 1 shoes! “PNW problems.”) But it would be good to know what we’re getting into.Jul 25, 2019 at 7:02 pm #3603439
Thanks for the kind words all. Ironically, I thought we were doing a 6-day hike because I misread the email. Wasn’t until we started that I found out we were doing 5 days. Since the other three hikers were less than half my age, I didn’t feel too bad about being 5-10 minutes behind at times. :-)
@katherine: We did the Spray Park trail instead of Carbon River/Ipsut/Mowich. There was snow, but not lots, and nothing at all sketchy (the sketchy parts were around the south and southeast portion of the trail). I wouldn’t bother with microspikes, you’d be putting them on/taking them off every few minutes. I don’t remember any snow field being more than 25-30 feet across, maybe one that was perhaps 50 feet, but it was easy to get purchase in the snow with our trail runners (it was generally soft enough by mid-morning) and I don’t remember any dangerous runouts even if you did slip. The views on the Spray Park trail were definitely some of the best of the trip (and it’s where we saw the goats).Jul 25, 2019 at 7:04 pm #3603440Ben CBPL Member
Beautiful pictures. Thanks for sharing.Jul 25, 2019 at 7:06 pm #3603441
“Unsettling because you can’t immediately or ever see the rockfall.”
We would occasionally hear, but not see, some big booms coming from Rainier. Assumed they were from avalanches and such. You’re right about it being a bit unsettling!Jul 25, 2019 at 7:12 pm #3603442Katherine .BPL Member
@Doug Thanks for the info! We will be enjoying a much more leisurely pace.Jul 25, 2019 at 7:36 pm #3603444
I thought we were doing a 6-day hike because I misread the email. Wasn’t until we started that I found out we were doing 5 days.
That’s hilarious. “Guess what, guys…” :-)
Great trip, great pics.Jul 25, 2019 at 10:59 pm #3603467Jeffs ElevenBPL Member
Just think of it as having an extra day of food🤷🏻♂️
Jerry, you’ve never seen marmots at goat rocks??? Ive seen like 10 on one trip. Thats like a minor miracle of sorts.Jul 26, 2019 at 1:40 am #3603481Elliott WolinBPL Member
@ewolinLocale: Hampton Roads, Virginia
The Wonderland Trail is one of the best, if not the best trail in the US (the world?), and 5 days is a fast pace. But I’d recommend taking much longer if you are able to. We spent 13 nights on the trail one summer and loved every minute of it. We had lots of low mileage days with plenty of time to explore, relax, lounge around, soak our feet, contemplate our navels, whatever.
Our attitude is there’s no point racing through paradise!
I imply no criticism of a 5-day trip, of course, none whatsoever.Jul 26, 2019 at 3:07 am #3603486
“I imply no criticism of a 5-day trip, of course, none whatsoever.”
None taken at all. If I did it again I’d probably plan for 7 days. I don’t think I’d enjoy taking much longer than that – I’m not exceptionally good at sitting around (unless I’m home). Even taking five days, we took long lunches and a few other shorter breaks in pretty spots each day, and still got into camp at 4-4:30 each day, which is more camp time than I usually enjoy unless I have a book with me (and I didn’t for this trip).Jul 26, 2019 at 3:23 am #3603490Jim ColtenSpectator
“I thought we were doing a 6-day hike because I misread the email.”
details, details (smirk). Not that 22k feet up plus the associated descent over 6 days would have been a walk in the park..
Sounds/looks like a nice place for a trip. Wife’s cousin has a daughter living in Seattle and he’s been suggesting a Wonderland Trail trip … maybe I should call him about that?
Marmots? MEH … got my fill of them on Whistlers Mountain so many decades ago.Jul 26, 2019 at 3:43 am #3603492
You’d love it Jim, it’s a fantastic hike. You were kind enough to show me northern Minnesota, I’d be happy to show you the Wonderland as well. Permits can be a bit tricky though.Jul 26, 2019 at 10:39 pm #3603622Tom KBPL Member
Very well done, Doug. Enjoyed the pictures immensely, and grimaced at the thought of 18+ mpd on that kind of upsy downsy trail. A studly effort indeed.
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