Ti Goat Rifle

Newest website (after pakrifle.com no longer working)
http://www.packrifle.com

Some early discussion with Josh's name mentioned
http://www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-bin/backpackinglight/xdpy/forum_thread/24769/index.html

Ryan review
http://www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-bin/backpackinglight/pak_rifle_review.html

Weird that they put the image on that page, but you cannot buy it there.

I have no need for a rifle but that is very cool. Two distributors in my backyard……I may have to check one out.

The one on the Ti-goat page looks quite a bit different from the pack rifle that was reviewed on this site and discussed in a long thread. It looks way more minimal and quite a bit lighter. Seems more like a teaser photo for something that is not available yet?

Yep!

Lighter, stronger, more compact, more affordable, more versatile.

The Pak-Rifle that was reviewed by Ryan, here on BPL, is an entirely different rifle from what is on the TiGoat website, though I designed both.

If you followed the Back country boiler versus the mKettle story, it pales in comparison to the Pak-Rifle story. In the end though, something has to drive innovation, and many forms of competion do a real good job of that.

I like this design much more than the last one. I often pack a kids chipmunk rifle with a 3/4" Redfield scope. Light and deadly accurate. Always thought it would be hard to beat with a light barrel and stock. Might also like a pistol version with about a 10 inch CF barrel and a strategic hole in the grip. OK maybe that's pushing it a bit. Probably wouldn't really need a scope with the longer sight radius of the rifle barrel anyway.

Fun stuff!

My budget's tight but I can be tempted.

"I often pack a kids chipmunk rifle" I've had one of those since ~1984. Not to give too much away, but you are really on to something there.

and maybe you could do one of those popular limited edition serial number things too. oh yeah, maybe like T007. I might pay extra for that. Anyway, you've got my respect if you can make it happen 'cause I'm sure you have your work cut out.

Josh,

So when will it be available and approximate cost?

hmmm… I think I got enough out of that ;)

Any ideas on pricing, and more importantly availability in CA?

Also, the barrel is CF? never herd of that substrate as a barrel material.

obviously I'm intrigued, can't wait to learn more about this thing

"Also, the barrel is CF? never herd of that substrate as a barrel material"

maybe with a metal sleeve…

Ok, little research goes a long way lol, so it looks like they're using a variety of Crickett/chipmonk adult and youth .22's… very interesting! the diy'er in me, is rubbing his hands together… thanks! :)

and I see its CF wrapped around a cro-moly machined barrel… pretty slick, it would be cool if they would sell me a barrel!

http://www.titaniumgoat.com/PRK.html

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How good of a shot are you? and how good are your nerves? ;-) Just kidding.

I would not reccomend it for that purpose, bear spray is going to be the responsible thing to carry and use if it is bears you are worried about.

Where are going on your trip to the states? In most areas, bear aren't really a big threat to humans.

And while the tigoat rifle would be a better defense than nothing, it's probably not the best choice for bear. Just remember the only thing worse than a charging bear is a wounded charging bear. ;)

P.S. I've had many encounters with bear, and while they inspire a good bit of adrenaline, no humans or bear were ever harmed.

Az

Cool little rifle, Much more suited to putting squirrel stew on the backcountry table than fighing a bear. Like it's been said time and time again, bears may seen like a huge threat but weather and other humans are probable much more likely danger. A single shot .22LR is just going to pi$$ off a bear anyways.

I looked at the earlier pack rifle when ryan jordan reviewed it a while ago. The fact that this has a real bolt action for the same weight makes it seem like it would be a bit more usable. Pretty cool josh!

The ranger at Olympic National Park said the only case he knew of humans hurt by bear were hunters that wounded a bear.

http://www.alaskadispatch.com/article/alaska-bear-attack-nols-kids-did-phenomenal-job?page=0,3

I'd love to see a mag fed, 16" bolt gun with real sights, dropped in a folding, minimal but functional, stock. I'm thinking about a CZ scout project.

@Fred – This might be something that fits your criteria.

http://www.henryrepeating.com/rifle-survival-ar7.cfm

Depending upon your weight tolerance 2.5lbs might be heavy, however, there are shops that make parts for the AR-7 that might bring that weight down. Check out this site.

http://ar7.imoutdoorshosting.com/store/page73.html

Yes I'm familiar with the AR-7. Not a fan… but I hear some get along with them. I'd prefer a bolt with good sturdy sights.