Why would I ever wear short sleeves in the NE?

makes sense. anything is a better option than that. yikes…

It was hot a muggy, never really used my 40F bag. That plus the bug bites made this interesting at night. :p

Gads, man! And that's just 'one' arm you're showing us.

If you would, let us know how you make out with that GoLite shirt.

There was a 40% off sale, so I grabbed two of them in a nasty color. :p

May still be some there…but again, I've never seen/used the shirt. It can't do any worse than my short sleeve! :p

Bryce,

When I lived in CA, I only used shorts and T shirts. However, now after living in PA for 15+ years, I've totally switched to long sleeves and long pants. The reality of bugs, nettles, poison ivy far outweigh any improved comfort in ventilation even on the hottest and muggiest days. I'd rather sweat all day, rather than scratch all night.

yep, that about sums it up. I'm going to sweat anyway.

Also, I don't mind the better sun protection, even if most of the trails I'm on are well shaded.

Ouch!

Treat your clothing with permethrin too, as mosquitoes can bite through many fabrics. It's also very effective against ticks.

Skeeters love me unfortunately. Permethrin is a must and I use a technical grade to reduce the $. Columbia Titanium shirts with some Modal content are very light and feel almost cold because of the Modal .I bought mine in thrift stores for less than $10 unworn Very similar to Silk. I also bought one National Geographic shirt off Ebay last year. A bit heavy , funky buttons , cheap under $20 including shipping. The weave on it's nylon is so tight that no skeeter has ever made it through and they try long enough that the Permethrin kills them. I may be able to find the Ebay seller again. and I can also provide the Permethrin Source. Rather strong smelling this batch. Good Luck!

When I'm running or speedhiking, I can't deal with long sleeves. I overheat way too fast. If I'm doing 15 miles or less in a day? Long sleeves every month of the year except July.

This is an especially bad year for bugs in Western MA. Haven't spent any time in the rest of New England yet, but I think the super harsh winter has contributed to it in a big way. Also noticing an enormous amount of chipmunks, which probably has something to do with the enormous amount of ticks that are out right now.

I'd def. love to have the source to the jungle juice. :p

No more than 15 miles per day for me. 10 is "nice" and 17 was my record. With my busted body, that's prob all I got so long sleeves for me!

I have a gallon of the industrial concentrated permethrin. I dilute it and treat all my outdoors clothes. It will last a few years.

Permethrin has a delayed reaction. I have found that mosquitoes will actually bite me through my treated clothing at times, but I'm sure they die shortly after.
So it isn't great for mosquitoes.
Ticks, on the other hand, die before they can transmit lyme. Lyme is far more common in the North East than people think.

Do you ever worry about permethrin? It's tempting to wear something that kills ticks, but the chemicals scare me a fair bit.

Permethrin has been used to treat clothing since the 40's, from what I understand. It has shown no affect on humans. It is possible to have an allergic reaction to it in liquid form, but not to clothing treated with it.

The liquid form can be harmful to cats and fish. So treat your clothing, fully dry then wash in the washing machine before wearing.

It is often used to treat hotel carpets and other commercial and residential properties.

One thing that has proven to be far more dangerous than permethrin is ticks carrying Lyme disease.

Something to consider.

3.5 oz for medium
4 oz for large

http://www.ultralightoutdoorgear.co.uk/golite_wildwood_trail_long_sleeved_run_top.html

Baller lightweight top…

http://www.craft-usa.com/cra_shop_zoom.php?back=&category=&headline=&area=clearance&type=&id=1179&bcsex=&clearancezoom=1

And sweet lightweight bottoms.

http://www.2xu.com/product/235/Mens-Elite-Compression-Tight/12

I ran the a 17 mile variation of the Franconia ridge loop in this getup a week ago. It breaths so dam well along with keep the sun off i def prefer it to short sleeves and short pants. And best part no bugs!!!!

On a daily basis i tend to wear lightweight long sleeve UV block running shirts anyway so maybe i am just used to it?

What's the weight on those two items you list?

How do you all treat your clothes with Permethrin? Spray it on you clothes or another method? Any particular brands that are recommended? Where do you buy the stuff? online?

This is BPL and i had better have that answer. The bad news is i do not. I can dig around the basement for my gram scale later as i am just about to run out for a few hours..

I cant imagine it is anymore heavy that the lightest of light weight hiking gear as i am pretty freaky about weight and this stuff is almost negative weight..

I will look into it later though… The shirt is something that was made for a Kona winner that had overheating problems due to the brutal sun so it is wicked lightweight and very very breathable…

From just a quick google search it seems like around 104 grams to 13 grams?

"How do you all treat your clothes with Permethrin? Spray it on you clothes or another method?" Spray it on your clothes. The spray on stuff is good for 6 weeks and several washings. There's also expensive clothes that are made with permethrin incorporated in manufacture, called 'insect shield'; this lasts longer (30 to 60 washes). Ex officio and railriders make these clothes.

Permethrin spray is available at outdoor shops:
http://www.rei.com/product/768970/sawyer-permethrin-pump-spray-24-oz

I have bought giant bottles of the stuff for my dogs at Tractor Supply. It is a farm supply store that sells stuff for all kinds of stuff. As far as treating i would imaging a pump spray set to fine or a plain old spray bottle?

I don't even like putting the stuff on my dogs not to mention myself so i just go with long sleeves and netting.

Rgarding:
"How do you all treat your clothes with Permethrin?"

I buy the industrial strength stuff from a veterinary supply. You can order though Amazon and such.
It costs less than 1/10 what you'd pay for the spray at an outfitter.

I follow the instructions and dilute with water to approximately 0.3% strength. I will usually make about two gallons of this solutions and throw my wife's and my clothing into an old tub and poor the solution on top.
Stir so that it is fully absorbed.
Hang until totally dry.

Then wash and dry like you normally would.

It should be good for at least two months and several washings.

Keep the cat away until the process is done.

The 2xu mens compression tight in Medium is 164 grams.. also not bad in my book for a full length pant. Yeah you look like a dork wearing em but the heck with it we are dorks BPL/gear, yeah def dorks we are for sure ;)