Jun 3, 2011 at 9:25 am #1274854
I've been lurking for awhile and thought I would make my first post. I've backpacked for a long time but I am just now really getting into it. I have acquired a lot of gear thus far but now I need to add a good technical shell. I will be doing Rainer next summer as well as a few 13 – 14ers. Eventually to Denali and who knows where else. I need a good shell. I was looking at the goretex pro shells but I have read on this site that they do not breath as well. But is the pro shell more durable than some of the other fabrics?
I was looking at the Outdoor Research Mentor, Mountain Hardware Optimo, and Marmot Troll wall. Any opinions about these? They are expensive jackets so I want to make sure I get a good one that will last me for years in some rugged places.
Any help is greatly apprecited!
-TravisJun 3, 2011 at 9:59 am #1744454
Eric BlumensaadtBPL Member
@danepackerLocale: Mojave Desert
Travis, I'd go for a good eVent parka. The REI Sushkan is about the least expensive but other good ones like the very top-of-the-line Westcomb parkas from Canada, who have more features on some parkas, if that's what you're looking for.Jun 3, 2011 at 12:34 pm #1744517
Thanks :) I am checking out the westcomb stuff right now. I've read a lot about the eVent stuff but I have not heard a lot of reader reviews yet.Jun 3, 2011 at 12:49 pm #1744524
@rcowmanLocale: Canadian Rockies
Montane, or Rab eVent shells. I Use a windshell like a houdini though about 95 percent of the time because it stops the wind, and breaths WAY better than any hardshell. Especially because I live in drier and colder environment. Last couple trips haven't even taken my waterproof shell, just a Windshirt like a kings canyon or a Houdini.Jun 3, 2011 at 12:54 pm #1744527
@earn_my_turnsLocale: New England
I have the REI Shuksan eVent Jacket and I love it. Great for what you are looking to do. RAB also makes some eVent Jackets that are alot lighter and I believe are liked alot on this site. I have never held or worn one.Jun 3, 2011 at 1:03 pm #1744533
nanook ofthenorthBPL Member
I climb quite a bit. Really like my Alpha SL, not much reason IMO for a heavier jacket.Jun 3, 2011 at 1:04 pm #1744535
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@chrisfolLocale: Denver, Coloado
For climbing clothing I really like the stuff by First Ascent: I own both their BC-200 and Frontpoint jackets.
The best part is if live close to an EB Outlet or if you can wait until one of their sales at a regular EB store then you can find the Frontpoint for under $250 and the BC-200 for under $200 making them quite a bargain when compared to other products.Jun 3, 2011 at 9:02 pm #1744723
Ryan CBPL Member
I was just recently on the quest for a good shell. Something durable, breathable, and light. PU based jackets were a no-go. Gore Tex Pro is nice but way too $. I settled on the Westcomb Specter LT with eVent, it weighs around 12oz. What impressed me about Westcomb over other brands was the high quality construction. It is very well made. The hood is fully adjustable and helmet compatible in the event I get into technical climbing. My recommendation would be to get one of their slightly heavier jackets that has more abrasive resistant eVent and drops a little lower. Westcomb's fit is roomy enough to have a light puffy insulation layer underneath.Jun 4, 2011 at 7:10 am #1744797
@davecLocale: The West Slope
Selling an Alpha SL on the swap right now…
;)Jun 4, 2011 at 4:09 pm #1744934
Westcomb Specter, Eddie Bauer BC200 or Rab Momentum. Full featured, helmet compatible, light weight, durable (given their weight) and highly breathable.Jun 5, 2011 at 4:56 pm #1745280
@gabe_joyesLocale: Lander, WY
My size small weighs 10.4 ounces. THe M10 seems to be more breathable than any other shell I've worn before, certainly better than gore-tex. It has a nice hood and all around great fit for me. The pit-zips are combined with the pockets which I think is pretty brilliant. I used to wear a marmot mica jacket in the summer and the M10 in the winter, but I have found the bit of extra weight worth the better performance during the summer months too. Its now my all-season and condition shell.
The price is outrageous but I've seen a couple on gear swap and it isn't too hard to get 30% off at shoebuy.comJun 6, 2011 at 4:23 pm #1745703
Thanks all :)
I spent a large chunk of my weekend shopping around. I agree on the eVent material. I want to test it out. I love goretex but that does not mean there is not something better out there. The Westcomb jackets looked really nice to me too. Though I have not seen one in person. I am still looking around but my choices are narrowing thanks to all of you.
Tough decisions!Jun 6, 2011 at 4:25 pm #1745706
Also, I have had very good luck with anything I have gotten from Patagonia… their stuff is all top notch. I do not know what they use for their material though… I know the name they use but what is it? How does it compare to eVent?Jun 6, 2011 at 4:29 pm #1745709
@rcowmanLocale: Canadian Rockies
The M10 jacket is pretty solid. All business, no pockets just a chest pocket and large pit zips. breathed pretty well when i was using it on the coast. but it is $400+. next season its going to be GTX pro shell.Jun 6, 2011 at 7:31 pm #1745800
Richard LyonBPL Member
@richardglyonLocale: Bridger Mountains
Travis, I was an eVent addict until I tried a Gore-Tex Pro Shell jacket from Norrona. I found that fabric to be comparable in performance (including breathability) to eVent. My review of the Norrona falketind is at http://www.BackpackGearTest.org/reviews/Rain%20Gear/Jackets%20and%20Pants/Norrona%20falketind%20GTX%20Pro%20Shell%20Jacket/Owner%20Review%20by%20Richard%20Lyon/
I've given eVent products from Westcomb and Wild Things comparable reviews however. You can't go wrong with either.
RichardJun 7, 2011 at 7:55 am #1745957
John McBPL Member
Travis, I had the REI eVent Sushkun for three seasons. On the third season the jacket started to wet out on me. I would wash it and retreat ir, but it just would continue to wet out. I now own an eVent Westcomb for one season. We'll see how that goes.Jun 7, 2011 at 7:58 am #1745959
I too have had bad experiences with many REI brand products. Any REI brand product with a zipper that I have bought went back due to zipper failures. Also the shell I bought started wetting out after only a few uses.Jun 7, 2011 at 3:41 pm #1746199
Tom KirchnerBPL Member
@ouzelLocale: Pacific Northwest/Sierra
Their record is spotty, for sure, which is where that return policy comes in handy. They make a pretty good line of Thermal Pro base layers, though, IMO.Jun 7, 2011 at 4:28 pm #1746220
@kiwimtnclmbrLocale: Northeast Highlands
I've got a brand new in the bag Patagonia M10 shell, size Med, in the gecko green available if you're interested. PM me if you'd like to hear more about it…Jun 7, 2011 at 6:42 pm #1746257
John NausiedaBPL Member
My daughter has used an REI low end rain shell to ride her bike to school for 3 years of Oregon rain a good 20 minute ride often in a downpour. No failure of the fabric or zippers. She has also used one of their small backpacks as her book bag daily for the same time period and she zips it up and down with no gentle treatment. Tomorrow we take delivery of an REI Kimtah jacket in eVent which I insisted we get as she will be traveling to Europe and then China using an REI UL 60 which was my wife's pack which my daughter likes better than her Golite pack. So I'm pretty impressed with those products.Jun 13, 2011 at 9:56 am #1748563
Well I've decided to get either the,
Both a pretty heavy but I think I prefer the extra durabilty. My layers underneath it are very light so I think that will make up for the extra weight.
I did buy a Marmot Precip just because it was on sale for only $50. I can use that for the 14'ers and get the heavy duty jacket when I do Rainier next summer. :D
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