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PostedApr 15, 2011 at 2:30 pm

My husband and I backpack together. Neither of us has ever gone without the other and it's unlikely that we'll do so any time in the future. We currently use an MSR Pocket Rocket stove and do mostly freezer bag cooking. We also have an esbit setup we use on very short trips.

Our el cheapo no brand pot weighs about 7 oz (with lid) and we each have a lexan mug at 2 oz., which totals 11 oz for the pot and two mugs. I'd like to get this lighter and it seems to me that we're carrying an extra item. I'm wondering if a pair of snowpeak-type mugs would be the most efficient. If we were to get at least one snowpeak 600, the capacity is 21 oz so we'd be able to boil 16+ oz at once, which would be sufficient for most meals (8 oz each). That way we can cook and still each have a mug to drink tea/soup from.

Does anyone else have any good ideas on this? I'm open to any suggestions.

Bob Gross BPL Member
PostedApr 15, 2011 at 2:49 pm

Maybe you prefer a cook mug like that. Alternatively, there are small 16-oz capacity teakettles that weigh less than 3 oz, so about the same as a Snowpeak 600. Then, with a couple of half-ounce plastic bowls, the total here is less than 4 oz.

–B.G.–

Tad Englund BPL Member
PostedApr 15, 2011 at 3:09 pm

I think the MSR Ti Kettle might be a good size for you, it weighs about 4 oz. and holds .9 l or about 30.4 oz. (close enough for FBC for 2 people)

PostedApr 16, 2011 at 4:46 am

My wife and I are happy with our Evernew Ti 0.9L pot with Caldera Sidewinder and a couple of ziplok 2 cup twist top bowls. REI sells the same pot under their name.

CW BPL Member
PostedApr 16, 2011 at 5:51 am

We use a SnowPeak 750 ml which has been sufficient. But, we're starting to drink coffee a lot more, so I plan to move to the Evernew 1.3 liter non-coated.

PostedApr 16, 2011 at 7:57 am

"My wife and I are happy with our Evernew Ti 0.9L pot with Caldera Sidewinder and a couple of ziplok 2 cup twist top bowls. REI sells the same pot under their name."

For trips with the wife, I also use a Evernew 0.9L pot with a Caldera Sidewinder, usually esbit. We eat out of the pot. If you also need mugs, I buy the "Campbells Soup at Hand" at the store, eat the soup at home, wash out the containers and take them as mugs. They weigh about an ounce each with tops. If you use esibit, the cone, gram cracker, and esbit will all fit in the 0.9 L pot.

For solo trips I have a Caldera Keg GVP.

PostedApr 17, 2011 at 2:26 pm

We carry two Snow Peak mugs, a 900 and a 700. We cook in the 900, and use the lid as a bowl to share. If we need a hot drink with dinner, we'll share the 700. I have homemade Reflectix cozies for everything.

For freezer bag cooking, which we do a lot for breakfast, I boil water in the 900, fill the bags and put them in bag cozies, then we use both the 900 and the 700 for our hot drinks. (Yes, the 900 can hold a lot of coffee. I see that as a feature.)

Jeffs Eleven BPL Member
PostedApr 17, 2011 at 2:51 pm

+1 Chris

When we do coffee or anything extra over FB meals IMO (and Chris's) the 1.3L is sweet. Boiling twice sucks. boil once a bunch of water and hydrate food and your mugs. especially w/ alcohol stoves. (longer boil time)

PostedApr 19, 2011 at 2:05 pm

Thanks!

There are a lot of good options here that I need to look into more closely.

We live in middle Tennessee, so we backpack in the Smokies and the Cumberland Plateau area most often, with occasional trips elsehwere (like a week in Yosemite this year!).

Jake Palmer BPL Member
PostedApr 19, 2011 at 3:59 pm

Does anyone know if the 1.3L uncoated Evernew pot is still being made? Every site I've found that lists it is out of stock. This appears to be the lightest pot available at that size if I could just find one to purchase.

PostedApr 19, 2011 at 4:08 pm

I got mine from E2E Trail Supply a while back, looks like he is no longer stocking them. I have one I do not use (only used once) that I would be willing to sell you for less than a new. PM me if your interested. If you would rather buy new, contact Rand and Trail Designs, he has them, but only is bundling them with his Sidewinder setup if your interested in going that route. Sweet setup, and I highly recommend Rand and the crew at TD.

PostedApr 19, 2011 at 4:25 pm

@James Marco: "About 7oz total weight, including pot lid. Aluminum is a better conductor and more durable than titanium…it dents before it cracks…"

Do you have any evidence of this happening? this is the first I've heard that Ti cracks before it bends…

Thanks,
BM

PostedApr 19, 2011 at 4:28 pm

I've got a nice little dent in my 0.9L coated Evernew, right at the bottom edge. Neither the pot nor the coating cracked.

PostedApr 19, 2011 at 5:44 pm

i have left my gf at home and that has substantially reduced my pack weight. just a thought…

PostedApr 19, 2011 at 5:53 pm

Have you thought about the Backcountry Boiler and a couple of aluminum or ti mugs (or just one metal mug and one of your lexan mugs).

At around 8 oz for the boiler, which is also your pot, you'd save weight by not carrying the pocket rocket and fuel canister. You'd use the metal mug on top of the Boiler, so you'd be heating 2 cups of water in the boiler, and then tea/coffee water on top!

PostedApr 22, 2011 at 1:13 pm

I too wanted a pot and mug for a couple or 3 people with freezer bag cooking. I created this set up and I have really liked the way it works.

I use one kit for each person or with my daughter we do two kits plus an extra cozy and spork for 3.

When packing my pack the kit includes:

Light My Fire Spork and auto sunshade cozy
Beer can pot with rubber bracelet lip protector
Wind screen / can protector – home depot aluminum
Pot cozy – auto sunshade
Supercat stove
Mini bic
8oz. fuel bottle

Cooking Kit Complete

Packed up it looks like this and weighs 6.3 ounces including everything

Kit packed on scale

Getting ready to cook I fill the beer can pot with approx. 20 ounces of water, put 1 ounce of fuel in the stove, light and prime the stove and set the pot on top and put the windscreen over it all. The water boils usually before the fuel runs out.

In cook mode it looks like this.
Stove in cook mode

Once the fuel burns out I wait a minute and then lift the pot off by the rubber lip, aided by a bandana or my shirt if the weather is hot. Then I place the cat can stove in the bottom of the cozy, put the lighter inside like this. So they don't get crushed or lost.
stove and lighter in cozy

Then I put the windscreen inside the cozy as well and slide the beer can pot down inside. I then have a perfect insulated mug/pot with a lid. Pour water off for Freezer Bag, drop in a tea bag for the rest.
Drinking, staying hot mode

Finish drinking, drop my fuel bottle inside and beer can pot and lid get flipped over and dropped back down inside the cozy. Everything is together, the can and stove are protected.
Stove system in packed up mode

Things I really like:
A stove for each pot/mug means you get lots of water fast, and everyone's food is ready at the same time.
Multiple lighters, stoves, pots, means you are backed up but still using everything
There's nothing extra – no stuff sacks
It's all together, you are never looking for the lighter, can't forget the stove
The fragile stove and pot are protected
There's nothing to tend, light the stove and relax.
Drop the hot pot of water inside the cozy and you have hot water for a long time.
The insulated mug mode with rubber lip protector is really nice compared to a wide pot
It's cheap and easy to make / replace
All together, it's user friendly and light

george carr BPL Member
PostedApr 22, 2011 at 4:33 pm

My stock of 1.3L evernew pots ran out last November, and at that time I was told they wouldn't get more at evernew america until February 2011. At that time the shipment came in and the factory did not ship the 1.3L and .9L pots! The 1.3L is/was my best selling cookpot, but as of right now I have no idea when we'll see more.

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