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Titanium Goat DWR vs. Golite Hex

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PostedNov 3, 2006 at 11:57 am

Hi,

I posted a few days ago asking for if anyone would like to venture a comparison between the GoLite Hex 3 (in sil-nylon) and a Titanium Goat Tipi (in DWR coated fabric).

Perhaps the previous posting was too much of a rambling narative before I got to the point.

If anyone has first hand experience with these 2 tents or any speculative comparisons, I would appreciate your input.

Many thanks in advance.

Larry

PostedNov 3, 2006 at 5:06 pm

I am very happy with my Hex. Sorry, I do not have any experience with the Ti Goat. There are 3 reviews of the Goat at http://www.backpackgeartest.org

My Hex 3 is an excellent winter shelter and stable as a rock in the wind. It is reasonably easy to pitch it in a rainstorm and keep the interior mostly dry. It weighs 2 lbs, 1 oz. with stakes.

In very humid conditions, condensation does form on the walls, however, in my experience, most tents that provide secure shelter share this trait. I haven’t found the condensation to be a problem in the Hex due to both the steepness of the walls (the condensation harmlessly runs down to the ground) and due to the large area (it’s easy for two people to stay away from brushing up against the walls).

In dryer conditions, the top vent in conjunction with pitching the bottom of the tent just off the ground, creates enough updraft to minimize condensation. I have customized my Hex by sewing a 16” wide strip of no-see-um bug netting around the perimeter that I tuck under the floor to keep out the bugs and creepy-crawleys. It added 3 oz.

In dry environments, I use a tyvek sheet that I cut about 6” smaller than the tent all around. In wet environments, I use the Golite Hex 3 floor. It weighs 22 oz, a few more than the 11 oz tyvek, but will float like a boat!

My only negative comment on the Hex and all other “pyramid” type tents is the lack of a vestibule, which would help with ingress and egress during downpours. Due to the size and shape of the Hex, there is plenty of room for two people and all their gear inside. I am over 6’ tall and keeping myself just south of 200 lbs and yet I can really stretch out in the Hex.

Note also that this is not a warm summer’s night tent.

I hope this helps you with your decision.

PostedNov 3, 2006 at 7:44 pm

Thanks for taking the time to share your experience and tips for living with the Hex. I appreciate your input. I too am considering bug netting around the bottom, but would try it with a bug net over my head first. I think Iwould try stick on velco before sewing. The 12 stakes that secure the bottom of the goat supposedly help to keep the bugs out. I am wondering if anyone knows how much more breathable DWR is than sil-nylon. Apparenly, because of the Ti-goat’s steep sidewalls, it doesn’t leak. Only mists in extream winds of 40MPH + that blow rain horizontal into the sidewall of the tent.

There is no such thing as a hot night above 8000 feet in the Sierras, so that isn’t a worry to me.

PostedNov 4, 2006 at 11:38 am

The primary benefit for the TiGoat is that it accepts the use of the woodburning stove internally.

Some might complain that this is a significant burden, but you can use the stove for cooking, for heating, and for drying your clothing. It also uses found fuel, so you dont need to carry any yourself.

I havent used a TiGoat tent before, but I have used a Kifaru, which is the original ultralight stove heated tipi. The minor weight penalty for a stove on a very cold night is more than made up for by the benefit of real core-warming clothes-drying heat.

If you dont want the stove on a summer trip, leave it at home.

PostedNov 4, 2006 at 1:51 pm

Yes, I read aboaut the stoves on the
ti-
goat website. They are only about 2 pounds. (The stove is 11 oz. Thats pretty amazing for a wood-burning stove. I may get one if I ever do extended winter camping. Its a great option!! If anyone is interested they can be viewed here.http://www.titaniumgoat.com/cstove.html

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