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PostedApr 2, 2011 at 11:25 pm

Hey Guys,

I nabbed a Nemo Obi 2P at REI today. It is light at 2lbs, 14.8oz for tent, fly and poles. Nice over-all design, but it is SMALL. Nemo says 27sq feet and I'd say that is being generous. I set it up in the backyard and laid in it with my 5 1/2 year-old daughter, and honestly there just isn't much shoulder room, even while lying down. Two adults would really be pushing it, and they better be comfortable with snuggling (For reference, I'm 5'9" tall with an athletic but lean build. I wear size Medium in shirts. My daughter is 48lbs and normal height for a kindergartener). Head room in the Obi is acceptable in the front by the doors, but even with a bunch of fancy canting in the mesh walls, the tent body still narrows considerably as you move towards the back, and the floor tapers such that two 20" sleeping pads nearly over-lap at the foot of the tent. There are clips on the fly that attach to the tent just behind the doors to help increase the internal volume at about shoulder level while you are seated. They help somewhat, but the tent is still on the narrow side. The vestibules are also very small, barely big enough for a pair of boots and a weekend backpack. Good thing you get two of them! I guess space is the bane of all uber lightweight tents, and Nemo unfortunately did not buck this trend. Really I'd call this a 1+, not a 2P. At this price, I was hoping for a bit more.

Nemo did manage to include one side pocket and their nifty light defusing material into a ceiling pocket so that your headlamp can nicely light your tent. There are also several attachment points inside to hang an optional gear attic and corner snaps to accept their optional paw print, which is a fleece-like floor insert to keep your tent clean if you have pets or messy tent mates. I suppose it might also provide some level of comfort on hard ground and possibly help keep the floor warm in cold weather. Not sure. There are also vents on each side of the fly above the doors that you can deploy while inside to help with ventilation.

The one-piece pole setup is a bit of a pain to assemble/dis-assemble, but I suppose they are no worse than any other of their type. The clips work well, but I like the ones used by Big Anges (Fly Creek) and REI (Quarterdome T2) better, as the ones on the Obi are a bit cumbersome to remove. Maybe in a terrible storm, this would be a plus. The Jake's Foot setup is pretty slick in that it allows all components (Tent, Fly and Footprint) to function as a single unit. When you tighten up the fly, the Jake's Foot literally bends and pulls the tent body down and out, thus assuring for a really tight pitch and flat floor, making the best of the small internal volume. The fly and foot print can be removed from the Jake's Foot while the tent is still staked down. They clearly offer a mechanical advantage, and are most likely critical to helping the Obi get a good pitch, but in all honesty, I think I'd like plain-old grommets better. Once used several times, however, I'm sure that feeling might wear off. Ventilation seems adequate, but not great.

Anyway… the Obi 2P is a nice tent, easy to pitch, looks great and is very light for a double-wall, but I'm torn. I was honestly hoping for more internal volume than it offers, and as much as I want to keep it, I will most likely be taking it back. Hmmm… the Big Agnes Fly Creek 3P looks like it might be a better solution?

PostedApr 3, 2011 at 7:41 am

Thanks very much for that review. Nemo is notorious for measuring the floorplan of their tents from outside the outer walls, so I am not completely surprised at the volume issue. Realistically, however, the space issue is not unlike what you find in the Seedhouse SL2, Fly Creek 2, Kilo, etc – they are really 1+ shelters.

If you really need a 2 person shelter, I think you are on the right track by mentioning the Fly Creek 3. For these UL models, one needs to go for the claimed 3 person shelters to get enough room for 2.

PostedApr 3, 2011 at 7:51 am

We also looked at the Nemo Obi 2P, and the Fly Creek UL2. My husband has really broad shoulders, and when we laid down in the UL2, I had to lay on my side if he was on his back, and both of us were crammed up against the outer wall. We ended up with the Fly Creek UL 3, as it gave us a little more room, we could both lay on our backs at the same time, and there was enough room for our medium sized dog.

PostedApr 3, 2011 at 9:48 am

Agreed about these light-weight 2P's being more like 1+, but I think I was hoping with all the hype, Nemo would actually deliver a true 2P tent. 20" Therma Rest pads at head of Nemo Obi 2P The pic is not at the foot, but at the head of the tent at it's widest point. These are 20" Therma Rest pads. There is about an inch of space between them on the inside and maybe 2 inches or so each on the outside. Nemo Specs 50" but the max width seems to be no more than 46" or so in reality. It seems a great single person shelter, but again, for two, you better be side-sleepers or have no issues with cuddling.

Paul Hatfield BPL Member
PostedApr 3, 2011 at 12:57 pm

> An inch or two different than spec seems acceptable, but 9"?

Welcome to the outdoor gear manufacturer's world. We really need to call out manufacturers on their exaggerations. Not only are the "optimistic" specs such as weight and dimensions unfair to customers, it's unfair to the manufacturers who play fair and give us accurate specs.

Sure there can be variations in product specs for various reasons. But some companies disseminate specs which are consistently biased in the optimistic direction, sometimes by very large amounts.

PostedApr 3, 2011 at 2:11 pm

Agreed, and in all honesty, I knew I might be taking a chance, but as my only experience with Nemo tents has been with my Meta 1P which is spot-on in the specs department, and is supremely spacious and livable, I was hoping Nemo would buck the trend with the Obi 2P as well. I will say, though, they didn't shirk in the weight dept., as the actual is a bit less than spec. For sure I'm not trying to bash on Nemo here, as the Obi 2P is a killer tent for one person. But it should be marketed as such, and as always, best to try (if at all possible) before you buy. Good thing REI will allow me to return.

PostedApr 4, 2011 at 7:25 pm

Hey guys,

Update here: Took some measurements today on my Nemo Obi 2P when I got home from work.

Nemo specs the following:

Length – 84”
Width – 50”
Height – 40”
Minimum weight – 3 lbs
Packed weight – 3 lbs, 10 oz

Actual measurements for my Obi 2P:

Length, interior center to center – 80”
Length, exterior corner to corner – 84"
Width, interior front of tent, widest point – 48”
Width, outside front, exterior, corner to corner – 50"
Width, interior, head zone – 45”
Width, interior, shoulder zone – 42”
Width, interior, from half-way point down to the foot – a constant 40”
Width, outside exterior, foot of tent, corner to corner – 42"
Height, interior, highest point – 38"
Minimum weight – 2 lbs, 14.5 oz
Packed weight – 3 lbs, 8.5 oz

I hope this helps anyone who is considering the Obi 2P so they can determine if the space is sufficient for their needs. If you want me to post pix, let me know and I'll try to do that, possibly tomorrow after work. Again, this is a really nice tent, and I'm actually thinking about selling my Meta 1P to justify keeping it. Arrgh… decisions! LOL

PostedApr 4, 2011 at 9:20 pm

Hey at least it's lighter than spec :)

The past 2 years I've been trying to use a tiny 2 person UL tent for both my solo trips and my trips with my wife. Now I have an even lighter solo shelter (HMG Echo I, 1.3 lbs) and a slightly heavier but spacious tent for the two of us (Big Agnes Fly Creek UL3) and overall I think were way better off. For those fast solo trips I'm even lighter, and for those more moderate paced trips with my wife, we've got the tent room to relax. 3.4 lbs is pretty darn good for how much space you get in the Fly Creek UL3. If you already have a solo shelter, I'd ditch the tiny 2 person tent and get something more reasonable, but it depends on how hard you hike vs. how much tent time you spend. With my wife, we spend a bit less time on the trail and more time in the tent so I suspect it'll be worth it to have more space. Overall, there are a lot better ways to save weight then by scrimping on the physical dimensions of a tent.

PostedJun 1, 2011 at 10:46 pm

Hey guys,

Just wanted to follow up on my Obi 2P. I was just about to keep it when I had a chance to set up and look over a Nemo Obi 1P tent. After spending some time thinking it over, I actually decided to sell my Obi 2P and picked up a 1P instead. Why? The Obi 1P won me over as the better designed and more true to stated design of the two tents. I did a short, comparative review between it and the 2P at Whiteblaze.net. You can check it out here: http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/showthread.php?t=72787

If you read the entire thread, you'll see towards the end that I discovered a tiny feature missed in the initial review that made a nice difference in the usability of the tent. I've had a chance to spend a few nights in it and so far, I am very impressed with how quickly it goes up, the amount of internal and vestibule space available, the taut and sturdy pitch and wind/rain shedding capability and the very good ventilation the design provides. Honestly, there are only two small areas I'd like to see Nemo address (mentioned in the review at Whiteblaze), otherwise it is about as good a 1-person tent as you'll find (IMHO).

Let me know if you have any questions.

Cheers!

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