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Mar 22, 2011 at 11:01 am #1270923

Dustin Snyder
BPL Member

@dustintsnyder
Locale: Southeast

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Mar 22, 2011 at 11:13 am #1712693

Henk Smees
BPL Member

@theflyingdutchman
Locale: Spanish Mountains

These stakes really look good – I have no comments (to improve) other then: "Would you consider selling these and if so, how much????

Mar 22, 2011 at 11:19 am #1712696

tim hower
Spectator

@jeepcachr
Locale: Great Lakes

Not to take away from the OP especially if he is considering producing them but ti-goat sells these.
http://www.titaniumgoat.com/stakes.html

I have no affiliation to them nor have I ordered from them.

Mar 22, 2011 at 11:34 am #1712707

Henk Smees
BPL Member

@theflyingdutchman
Locale: Spanish Mountains

Hi Tim,

I know Tigoat sell these stakes, but…… they're heavier. That's why I asked. I can always compare prices (if he decides to produce/sell his stakes).

Mar 22, 2011 at 1:57 pm #1712813

will sawyer
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@wjsawyer
Locale: Connecticut

Dustin, at that price, i'll definitely be watching this thread in hopes that you start selling some.

-Will

Mar 22, 2011 at 2:46 pm #1712854

Mark Fowler
BPL Member

@kramrelwof
Locale: Namadgi

Your stakes look good but are very similar to the Ti Goat pegs which weight 7g for the short and 9g for the long on my scales (1 gram units). They also have an aluminium head rather than a plastic which may explain the slight increase in weight.

Did you make the carbon tube or buy it?

Mar 22, 2011 at 7:47 pm #1713098

Daryl and Daryl
BPL Member

@lyrad1
Locale: Pacific Northwest, USA, Earth

Dustin,

I like your stakes. Nice job. I agree with you on the holding power of them. They are my current favorite stakes and the ones I use.

I've made similar ones and also purchased some from Ti-Goat. In fact several years ago I sent pics of mine to Ti-Goat and suggested that they add a head to theirs and use the aluminum points for the sharp end. When they first started selling them they had no head and were very difficult to pull out of the ground and had a beveled pointy end. You are already up to speed on those items.

Here's my question. With the ones I made and the ones I bought from Ti-Goat (older nylon heads, not aluminum) I find that the heads come off sometimes if I pull hard on them. Have you found an adhesive that keeps the heads secure? The nylon head seems to resist reliable glueing. Perhaps that's part of the reason Ti-Goat switched to aluminum?

Daryl

Mar 22, 2011 at 9:32 pm #1713163

Daryl and Daryl
BPL Member

@lyrad1
Locale: Pacific Northwest, USA, Earth

Dustin,

Cool. That's good news on the adhesive.

I understand that you would want to keep the adhesive info under wraps……in case you want to make and sell them. I'd rather buy them than make them so I have no need for the info.

This stuff is just a hobby for me and I'm pleased to see products evolve.

Daryl

Mar 22, 2011 at 10:38 pm #1713203

Roger Caffin
BPL Member

@rcaffin
Locale: Wollemi & Kosciusko NPs, Europe

> The nylon head seems to resist reliable glueing.
You need a glue rated for plastics. Plenty of them around – start with Loctite.

Cheers

Mar 23, 2011 at 8:24 am #1713348

Nick Larsen
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@stingray4540
Locale: South Bay

Any one have experience with this "type" of stake in rocky soil? A lot of my hiking is in the Sierra's were the soil tends to be a mix of crumbled granite, granite rocks and the occasional dirt.

Snyder: Nice job, I may PM you soon if anyone can answer my question.

Mar 23, 2011 at 12:02 pm #1713479

Greg Mihalik
Spectator

@greg23
Locale: Colorado

"Any one have experience with this "type" of stake in rocky soil?"

Yep. And I confess pounding them in with a big rock. Relentlessly, until they are solid.
So I've destroyed the nylon heads, and separated the aluminum tips. Then I moved on to Easton Aluminum. But truth be told, those heads will also come off as a result of hammering.

So, be gentle my friend.

[Ya, I know – "lighten up with the rock" – but at dark-thirty and time running out, I'm looking for a big rock.]

Mar 23, 2011 at 12:24 pm #1713494

Daryl and Daryl
BPL Member

@lyrad1
Locale: Pacific Northwest, USA, Earth

I too have resorted to big rocks at times.

One time, with a "I'm freezing to death and must get this tent up" gusto I carried a really big rock over to a partially inserted stake and found, much to my pleasure, that it inserted that stake into the ground as if it was being pushed by a hydraulic press. No pounding needed.

Apr 3, 2011 at 2:52 pm #1719397

Daryl and Daryl
BPL Member

@lyrad1
Locale: Pacific Northwest, USA, Earth

Here's another carbon fiber stake source. Looks like they used externally fitting caps on the stakes.

stakes

Apr 3, 2011 at 3:11 pm #1719407

Roger Caffin
BPL Member

@rcaffin
Locale: Wollemi & Kosciusko NPs, Europe

> experience with this "type" of stake in rocky soil?
That's where I prefer a Ti wire stake. And if there are that many rocks around, I can pile a few onto the stake as well.

Cheers

May 13, 2011 at 11:54 am #1736195

JP
BPL Member

@jpovs-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2
Locale: Arrowhead

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May 30, 2011 at 1:42 pm #1742831

Daryl and Daryl
BPL Member

@lyrad1
Locale: Pacific Northwest, USA, Earth

Dustin,

Looking good. Thanks for posting the refinement process. It has been interesting. I like the looks of those tips.

Daryl

May 30, 2011 at 3:12 pm #1742854

Roger Caffin
BPL Member

@rcaffin
Locale: Wollemi & Kosciusko NPs, Europe

The tip is OK, but you will find the top cap has a tendency to pull out when you are extracting the stake from a tight spot.

Cheers

Edited: I am assured the cap does not pull out. My experience was actually only with Easton arrow shafts, which are a LOT more slippery. I gather the caps are also glued in place. Seems reasonable to me.

Jun 8, 2011 at 4:03 pm #1746627

Roger Caffin
BPL Member

@rcaffin
Locale: Wollemi & Kosciusko NPs, Europe

Hi Dustin

OK, I'm interested. Educate me please!
What plastic?
What (exact) dimensions for bore and cap? I assume you are using an interference fit?
Are you using an adhesive at all?
How do you assemble it? With a press?

Cheers

Jun 12, 2011 at 5:25 pm #1748302

mike mazzarella
Member

@mazz1111
Locale: WNC

are you taking orders yet?

thanks,
mike

Jun 15, 2011 at 10:45 am #1749563

Dustin Snyder
BPL Member

@dustintsnyder
Locale: Southeast

Removed till a later date.
Thanks for understanding.
Dustin
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