Mar 2, 2011 at 9:20 am #1269942
Robert BurkeBPL Member
@coastiebobLocale: Wishing I was Backpacking
As the winter camping season fades in the Mid-Atlantic, I wanted to throw a question out to the community regarding Lightweight/High Volume Backpacks for winter use. For shorter trips with temps down to 30 degrees, I have been using my Hyperlite Windrider. Very comfortable pack, but when the temps sag into the 20's and I need more bulky gear/garments, I have a really tough time fitting my gear.
I have been using my Osprey Aether 85 which fits everything in and then some with no problem, but at 5.5 pounds is over 3.5 pounds heavier which jacks up my base weight. Also, I use this pack in spring-fall when I take my wife as one of the conditions for her to come is I will carry her sleeping bag, pad and clothes. She is worth it. Comfortable pack, just heavy.
But, I know there is always a better way out there. I was wondering what you all use as a lighter pack to haul around a lot of bulk, but not necessarily weight?
BobMar 2, 2011 at 9:26 am #1703440
Joe ClementBPL Member
Golite Pinnacle. Or maybe a ULA Catalyst, but I don't consider that lightweight.Mar 2, 2011 at 9:42 am #1703448
te – waBPL Member
i get down to single digits with an OHM.
im currently looking for a transition pack tho, using the OHM in winter and the Burn in summer leaves a large gap.. smaller of the ULA (cdt) is still too big, so my eyes are set on a zpacks cuben blast 26. have you considered the blast 32?
i'll be joining tahoe and jellybean on the GET in a few days, then i can check out his kit and see how the blast 26 is working for him. of course, our kits are nearly identical in bulk and weight even tho he uses a hexamid and im in a hammock/tarp system.
using your current chioce of UL pack (that is debatable, at 25oz) as an example, i would go for the blast since it is larger, lighter, and costs less.
$255 for the 25oz cuben hyperlite version seems like a stretch – i'd rather have dyneema for that weight. my 0.02Mar 2, 2011 at 9:46 am #1703451
SMD Starlite. Plenty big enough for bulky winter gear and carries wonderfully.Mar 2, 2011 at 10:14 am #1703456
High volume? Pinnacle.Mar 2, 2011 at 10:38 am #1703476
@benjammin21Locale: The Grid, Brooklyn
Like mentioned here I have a 2 pack system: for big expedition trips, or when I'm serving as a pack mule, or up to 3 months ago, I used a ULA Catalyst. Lightweight, rides well. Otherwise, for solo trips up to a week, winter weekenders, or trips where I can be lighter, a LAUFBURSCHE huckePACKchen. maybe 30 liters? Can't remember. Love the Catalyst though, I plan on having mine forever. And ever. Really. I don't think I'll ever retire it.Mar 2, 2011 at 11:00 am #1703484
Alex HBPL Member
@abhittLocale: southern appalachians or desert SW
+1 on the SMD StarliteMar 2, 2011 at 11:19 am #1703490
Elliott WolinBPL Member
@ewolinLocale: Hampton Roads, Virginia
Golite Trek, discontinued I think, but it shows up from time to time on Ebay. The Pinnacle might be its replacement, although it is somewhat smaller. When the Trek wears out, and that won't be for a while because I don't use it all that much, I'll get a Pinnacle. I don't use it that much because I own too many damned packs, so I switch among them so that I get a chance to use them all!Mar 2, 2011 at 11:24 am #1703494
Evan McCarthyBPL Member
I've been surprised by how much I've been able to put in my MLD Burn, even comfortably on two-night winter backpacking trips. It takes some ingenuity, of course, to make everything fit. But it makes me wonder how much technical volume one really needs . . .Mar 2, 2011 at 11:45 am #1703500
Eugene SmithBPL Member
@eugeneiusLocale: Nuevo Mexico
For me, "high volume" is my ULA Ohm, it'll swallow my shelter, quilt and insulation and leaves me significant room for food and cooking kit- I don't get the time to do extended length trips lasting more than a week so the Ohm is everything I need volume wise. My MLD Burn holds quite a bit of gear as well. The key I've found is finding a pack that has has smart pocket and storage layout in the design, the Burn for example can swallow a healthy amount of gear in the rear stretch pocket and more outside of that with the cording. If you're an everything in kind of guy then something like the MLD Exodus or Ark might be more the ticket for a "high volume" pack .Mar 2, 2011 at 11:59 am #1703509
Granite gear Ozone for me.Mar 2, 2011 at 5:44 pm #1703675
I use a McHale SuperSARC in Dyneema. :)Mar 2, 2011 at 6:31 pm #1703695
Mary DBPL Member
@hikinggrannyLocale: Gateway to Columbia River Gorge
My lamentably discontinued Six Moon Designs Comet (2600 cu. in. main bag, 650 cu. in pockets) is more than big enough for me. I never have used the extension collar, even when sherpa-ing for my grandkids (that used to be 2 extra sleeping bags and pads, besides the food and bigger tent) or when taking cold weather gear. In fact, I am really tempted to whack off most of the extension collar and replace the velcro closure (I hate velcro!) with a drawstring closure. I probably won't, though, because I'm a lousy sewer!
The Comet I have is the 2005 model which was revamped in 2006 (I took advantage of the closeout sale). IMHO, it supports weight better (has a better hipbelt and lumbar pad) than the newer model discontinued a couple of years ago (I have one of those, too). I plan to use my 2005 Comet until it falls apart or I fall apart, whichever happens first! If the pack goes first, I'll probably switch to a ULA pack, if it works.Mar 2, 2011 at 6:55 pm #1703718
+1 on the pinnacle. 2008 and earlier models*Mar 3, 2011 at 12:14 pm #1703998
@ken_bennettLocale: southeastern usa
+1 on the Starlite.
I bought an Ohm last summer since my six year old Starlite is really too large for warm weather loads. The Ohm is very nicely made, and I used it on several weekend trips. This week I have been packing for a week-long AT section hike, and of course loaded up the Ohm which held everything nicely. Then, just for kicks, I put all the same gear in the Starlite, and it's much more comfortable on my back than the Ohm. Hmmm.
I suspect I'll be posting on the sale forum when I get back. Too bad, it's a nice little pack.Mar 3, 2011 at 4:20 pm #1704115
Bob, if the thought of extensively modifying your packbag doesn't make you queasy, I'm pretty certain you can cut the weight of the Aether down by over a pound… Just ditch the lid & it'll save you 11.5 ounces. I'd be surprised if some dedicated re-working didn't lose another pound.Mar 3, 2011 at 5:08 pm #1704127
another +1 for the SMD Starlite.
I never really get it full, but wow, it just carries so easily that I don't mind the extra 8 or 10 oz… A seriously comfortable pack.
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