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PostedMar 1, 2011 at 12:08 pm

I'm seeking a short, wide titanium cup to use on my varga titanium triad stove. My current 475 ml titanium cup from Mountain Laurel Designs is 82mm in diameter, but that is a bit too narrow. the flames shoot up the sides and I have to trap them with a rigged aluminum foil screen. I don't need more mug volume. I just need more diameter. Anybody know of a single wall ultra light lidless handless titanium mug with a diameter greater than 82mm? I think the Snow Peak mugs even in the 600ml capacity are still the same narrow diameter. Somebody surely makes a short, wide titanium mug. Help!

Sorry — cross posted from gear list where I posted this first by mistake.

Eugene Smith BPL Member
PostedMar 1, 2011 at 12:59 pm

I already mentioned this in the other thread, but the Evernew 600 Ti ultralight pot might work for you, it has collapsible handles and the wide bottom has more surface area for boils.

PostedMar 1, 2011 at 1:54 pm

Evernew also do a wide 400ml 'companion' cup designed for another pot to nest into and the diameter is over 90mm. I got mine from trail designs.

Joe Newton BPL Member
PostedMar 1, 2011 at 2:22 pm

What about one of the tea kettles offered by Brunton, Esbit, etc. They measure 5 to 5.75 in in diameter and approximately 2.5 to 2.75 tall. There are taller varieties as well. Weight may be an issue and they are not very multiuse.

Dale Wambaugh BPL Member
PostedMar 1, 2011 at 2:32 pm

Chris. send me a PM (and set up yours) or email dwambaugh at yahoo dot com. I have something that might work for you.

PostedMar 1, 2011 at 3:52 pm

look at the MSR Titan Kettle

Dimensions: 4 7/8 inches (diameter); 3 1/2 inches (height)

Simon Wurster BPL Member
PostedMar 1, 2011 at 8:11 pm

+1 on Snow Peak bowl. This sleeper of a cookpot is highly underrated. For a side-burner stove (I used a Vargo Decagon) I had the best boil times with the SP Bowl over the MSR Kettle, SP 600, SP Solo, BPL 550, and BCG 700–probably because the wide width and also the meager 1/2" gap between the 16 oz. water surface and the lid. Mine measures 1.8 oz., plus 0.2 oz. for a homemade lid (you can go lighter), for a 2.0 total weight. Given the weight and the price, I guess the walls are really thin, which may help the efficiency a lot.

Of course, the SP Bowl is not a very good coffee cup, and some of the weight savings (pot and fuel) have to be given back for a decent mug, like the 0.5 oz., insulated, Mac-n-Cheese cup (another sleeper).

PostedMar 2, 2011 at 9:01 am

What is the SP bowl's capacity? That thing looks perfect! And by mac and cheese cup, do you mean the container that the microwaveable easy-mac stuff comes in? What a great idea!

James Klein BPL Member
PostedMar 2, 2011 at 9:33 am

Mathew, if I remember correctly, the snow peak bowl would hold 20oz to the brim (so 16oz practical) or maybe is was 24oz brimming and ~20oz of that volume usable. I'll measure when again when I get home if no one else provides a measured answer.

james

Steven Paris BPL Member
PostedMar 2, 2011 at 9:41 am

I just poured 500ml, leaving about 1/2" from the rim, and 600ml to just below the rim. So, practically 450 – 500.

PostedMar 2, 2011 at 9:43 am

No worries James, I just wanted to make sure it could hold enough to rehydrate a meal. I found one with free shipping and I'm ordering it in another tab right now!

Dale Wambaugh BPL Member
PostedMar 2, 2011 at 10:17 am

The SnowPeak Ti bowl is an UL backpacking bargain and I don't know why it hasn't become a standard. I wish they made a plastic lid and/or a metal one. Generic pot grabbers work fine with it. Of course aluminum foil works fine for a lid, and you can drill the bowl and add a wire bail if you like. It will bend easily, so some minor precaution needs to be taken when packing it.

James Klein BPL Member
PostedMar 2, 2011 at 4:56 pm

I remeasure how much water I can fit in the sp bowl….

Weight ~1.9 oz (~54grams).

Volume 3 cups even (~.75L or 24ozs) fills it to the brim. With this much water in it I cannot pick it up w/o spilling water. Practically, I can put 2.5 cups (~.6L or 20ozs).

I would bet most any pots qouted volume measures out to brimming full (all I've had have).

James

Simon Wurster BPL Member
PostedMar 2, 2011 at 8:52 pm

@Matt: Yup, they’re the Kraft microwaveable Mac-n-Cheese cups, hold about 11 oz with room, weigh 0.5 oz., and come with a thin but effective styrofoam outer layer (sides, and partially on the bottom). Velveeta Shells & Cheese comes in the the same cup, and is yellow (high vis). The lid from a Planters (and others) peanut can is a good, but not water-tight, fit (good for storing stuff inside). And no, these cups don’t fit well inside the SP bowl (it’s too tall).

They’re maybe not as good as a styrofoam cup, but a sure lot sturdier.

One tip: when you microwave the cup, the styrofoam distorts (maybe shrinks?), so either just use hot water to cook the macaroni, or simply microwave in a different container.


@Dale
: it was your review from a few years ago that got me interested in this backpacking-come-oatmeal bowl, and my early experiments with alcohol stoves a couple of years ago convinced me to move it from the kitchen to the backpack, and make it my main pot. And as far as a lid, the closest I came to a lid was a ZipLoc lid, the 14 oz. size (not sure if they make it anymore), but it looks like this one. It’s not a tight fit, but enough to keep everything together if placed in a snug mesh bag–I used that lid for a while. Of course, with a homemade aluminum lid, the plastic lid is moot.

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