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Idea – Cooking for the neat freak.

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PostedFeb 28, 2011 at 8:51 am

I hate "washing" dishes in the backcountry. Usually this consists of a cooking pot, a bowl, a spork and the worst case scenerio is when I burn my food in the cooking pot and don't have enough water to clean it. I then have to pack up my dirty dishes in my bag and since i'm OCD about keeping my gear free of food I am forced to bring three plastic grocery bags. One to keep food from getting on my gear, the second as a backup, and the third as a backup to the backup because I would hate to open my pack and find my sleeping bag covered in oats! So my idea:

700ml titanium cup paired with an empty peanut butter jar. Boil the water in the ti cup, empty it into the peanut butter jar along with your food, close the lid tight, stick it in your down jacket to insulate it. This means that I don't have to worry about burning food to my cooking cup, I can close the jar lid tightly and save my food for later, and if I run out of water for cleaning the lid closes tight and I will not have any fear of it getting my gear dirty. Bonus, cleaning is easier because you can shake the jar clean since the screw-on lid won't leak.

Am I overlooking anything?

Dave Heiss BPL Member
PostedFeb 28, 2011 at 9:05 am

Logan,

Pour boiling water into a container, OK. Pour boiling water into a container and then screw the lid down tight? Something's gonna give, and chances are your oatmeal would spray everywhere.

So don't crank the lid on tight unless it's to store leftovers, and all will be well.

PostedFeb 28, 2011 at 9:07 am

Would I be right in saying that my idea is identical to the freezer bag cooking except instead of a freezer bag I would be using a jar (which is more durable and won't just pop open like the seal on a freezer bag could)?

PostedFeb 28, 2011 at 9:09 am

Ah yes. See, I definitely overlooked that one! I of course am going to do lots of cooking with this setup in my kitchen before I take it into the field and you just saved me one mess to clean up.

PostedFeb 28, 2011 at 9:14 am

I trust nothing. I always try to pack water below anything that will be dangerous or ruin a trip if it gets wet. Use Nalgene or some other unbreakable bottle that is made to take the hot water. Test you grocery bags before the trip for leaks. I always find holes.

The shake-n-wash is a great idea really. I put a small washcloth in with minimal water and soap which seems to clean the sides a little better. Whatever you use is best if it has some mass so it rubs the sides of the jar and doesn’t just float around.

Last but not least, bring someone along just to do the dishes. ??? I'm just sayin…

PostedFeb 28, 2011 at 9:27 am

"Use Nalgene or some other unbreakable bottle that is made to take the hot water."

I was actually just browsing the different wide mouth bottles from nalgene and camelbak. This seems safer than a pb jar.

"I put a small washcloth in…"

Genius!

PostedFeb 28, 2011 at 9:57 am

"…worst case scenerio is when I burn my food in the cooking pot and don't have enough water to clean it."

Scrub it with dirt, then rinse it out when you get a chance.

Aaron W BPL Member
PostedFeb 28, 2011 at 10:28 am

I don’t know if this will help, but I like to use a Ziplock 32oz screw top containers and a cozy.
http://www.antigravitygear.com/trail-designs-caldera-kitchen-4-cup-screw-lid-container-with-cozy.html

It’s a multi use item . I can rehydrate food in it as I set up camp, it keeps my coffee warm is the morning, I can make protein sakes in it, I can treat water with my steripen in it, and best of all I can drink scotch out of it. When I pore hot water into I just don’t screw the lid down all the way. When I am done I put my spork inside with a little water and use the shake wash method.

I don’t trust the seal so on the trail I keep it in water bottle pocket the mesh back pocket. You only need to but the cozy once, and replacement containers are $3 for a 4 pack.

PostedFeb 28, 2011 at 10:33 am

Not sure if you're talking full on Nalgene bottle, but I really really like the 16 oz Nalgene.

http://www.nalgene-outdoor.com/store/detail.aspx?ID=1247

I bought this for soaking quinoa while hiking, but ended up just using it as my water bottle. Very similar dimensions as a Gatorade bottle, so it fits great on my shoulder strap.
Not UL, but bomber and a nice bottle.
Plus that PB jar may leech some nasty stuff out into your food.

PostedFeb 28, 2011 at 10:47 am

Some of the benefits of freezer bag cooking.

-mix all your dry ingredients at home and store in freezer bag
-"cook" your food in the freezer bag
-eat your food out of the freezer bag
-zip up freezer bag and pack it out
-wash the bags at home for reuse or throw them in the garbage
-no need to wash anything in the field

methods are many…. the freezer bag method is what I prefer. enjoy.

Roger Caffin BPL Member
PostedFeb 28, 2011 at 1:21 pm

Hi Logan

What you are talking about is often called 'dutch oven' cooking. Do a search here for that phrase – there should be a fair bit.
Anyhow, yes, a lot of us cook that way. But watch out for the steam pressure! Don't do the lid up tight while in use.

Cheers

PostedFeb 28, 2011 at 1:45 pm

"Dutch Oven cooking" is the use of a heavy cast iron or similar pot w/ a heavy lid that is often used with fires (think old school cooking/Boy Scouts/horse packers/people with kness that ain't creaking yet).

PostedFeb 28, 2011 at 10:15 pm

x2 Mike.

Logan, Mike put it pretty well. With a FB, there's no cleaning. Now, what can be better than that? I just use a 7×8 FB, put it in my Caldera Keg-H cozy to steep, and then eat and stow the plastic bag. No cleaning; more time for the camp fire, reading, or sleep, or whatever.

Cozy in action.

PostedFeb 28, 2011 at 11:06 pm

…but..but…it's so…anti-old-school. Oh well, can't stay old forever. I'm begining to like the idea of freezer bag meals. Thanks for the pic!

PostedMar 1, 2011 at 12:40 am

Hey Logan,

Not very UL, but my cooking and eating kit I find very easy to clean for hot meals. In general to save on clean up, I do a lot of no-cook foods like nuts and dried fruit, and I also do a lot of direct heat cooking like grilling a fresh caught fish on a stick over the campfire.

I use a teapot to boil water of course, then add that to my food (often oats, ramen, and lentils) which is in my plastic Swedish army bowl (78g). Then I fill the pot again and boil some more water, so when I am done eating, I can use it to rinse out my bowl and my spork. I also carry a small dish sponge (5g) to clean/dry my mess kit and I am done. Any water that is left over from being boiled, I let cool and add to my water bottle, as I depend only on boiling to clean wild water.

If you are low on water or not near a water source, you can also just take a small piece of TP and give your mess kit a good wipe down then just throw the TP in the campfire, or save it to throw it away.

Burning food is a problem to clean, but I avoid this by not cooking very much in a pot and using my teapot/bowl combo. You could be extra careful and not burn your food ;)

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