It Was A Dark and Stormy Night…

I can just picture the Japanese people passing by, shaking their heads, wondering why their government keeps letting in all these crazy foreigners! :)

But we gear heads understand totally. Congrats on your success in setting up your tarp in the middle of a raging typhoon!

Miguel, I’m in the same typhoon tonight. It was the best test so far of my LW rain wear, a Montbell WindBlast parka and pants (335gm for the set). The parka wet through in about 30 minutes, but it is designed as a wind jacket, not rain wear. This is what I normaly carry if Im not expecting rain, so now I know its limits. As you also found out tonight; it is best to test new gear within safe distance of shelter. Good job with your setup tonight!

yes, i’ve been there. the most challenging part for me is getting a taut pitch while the wind is pushing upon the material. takes me a lot longer with lots of adjusting. pitching the tarp very low helps.

Miguel, what kind of groundsheet/floor
do you use with your tarps for really wet conditions, when there is a sheet of water running over the ground?

Hi Chris,

When I use my SpinnShelter I use the idea from the Goassamer Gear user tips section.. an idea from a customer in the UK, where it rains all the time. The floor is really simple to make. The instructions are on the site.

Another thing you can do, though it’s a bit cumbersome, is to take the two corner tie-outs on each end of a ground sheet, pull them together to form a “U” of the end of the ground sheet, and loosely suspend these ends with cord from the hiking poles. This way you have a makeshift “floating floor” that more or less protects from the running ground water. A bit awkward to get in and out of the shelter with, but better than nothing.

I also use my SpinnShelter as a canopy for my hammock, which as you know isn’t affected by ground water. However, there are times when hanging isn’t an option. What I’m designing right now is a lightweight hammock only three feet wide, but with a top cover made half from Epic and a lower half made from 1.7 silnylon and held open with hiking pole spreader bars, so that when on the ground the hammock works well as a bivy/ bathtub floor (yes, in the beginning I wrestled with how to stabilize a hammock with single lines at the ends and with spreader bars, but I figured out a way that works very well). I’m even contemplating a single tube inflatable bladder insulated with PolarGuard to be incorporated into the bottom of the hammock so that it will form a lightweight sleeping mat that gets me a little more off the ground and insulate the hammock while suspended. What I hope eventually to do is have a simple shelter system with shaped tarp, hammock/bivy, and integrated air mattress so that I can sleep just about anywhere, among the trees or above treeline, even above rocks and on very steep slopes, as hammockers already enjoy.

There must be a better way to take the good things about tarp camping and hammocking and bring them together better. As it is they still seem to be two different camps.

Miguel,

Thanks for the link to the bathtub floor; that solves the problem of water coming over the edges.

You mentioned that you’re using 1.7 oz silnylon for the floor of your hammock. Is that what you use for a tarp floor? Jim Wood found that 1.3 oz silnylon has a low hydrostatic head and leaks when used as tent flooring (link), so it would be interesting to hear how 1.7 oz silnylon performs. Recently I’ve been using mylar groundsheets to save weight, but I haven’t had the opportunity to test one in a typhoon!