Okay, this talk about extending the range of my sleeping bag with clothing has me going. I have a Patagonia pull-over and would like the get some pants too, but they are spendy. Does anyone have a favorite for synthetic insulated pants other than the Micro Puffs? I’m in the same boat with the BWN Cocoon garments– it is only price that keeps me away.
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Favorite Insulated Pants?
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Montbell UL Thermawrap pants! on sale at ARGEAR.com for $119. My mediums weigh 10oz.
+1 on the thermowraps.
Military surplus fiber pile pant liners. Ultralight, about 8-9oz IIRC and only a few dollars.
Elliot wrote: “Military surplus fiber pile pant liners. Ultralight, about 8-9oz IIRC and only a few dollars”
Genius! Thanks :)
That prompted me to search around for the old fashioned quilted long johns. Codet is a company in Canada that still turns out tops and bottoms with a nylon shell and polyester fill. The tops are running about $35 and the bottoms are just $25. Of course they don’t publish the weight. I’ll report back on that.
The Codet pants should arrive soon, but in the meantime, I went searching for other options. At Cabela’s web site, I found some Thinsulate “Zone” underwear that looks interesting. Of course they don’t give the WEIGHT— grrrrr. Click here to see them.
The construction is what is interesting– they have used different weights and stretchable types of Thinsulate in appropriate areas of the garment. Neat idea. Has anybody used these for sleeping/cold weather?
Update: the Codet pants arrived. Fine for the money, but nowhere near the loft of the Micro Puff pants. Weight is 12 oz. For $25 you get two layers of nylon and a thin layer of polyester fill with an elastic waist and knit cuffs. They would be okay under rain pants or to sellp in. I would add silkweight longjohns to keep the cold nylon off my skin. All in all, I think microfleece or Power Stretch would give as much insulation, minus the wind protection given by the nylon layers.
Those codets dont look bad. The weight is a little high, but for the price…..
I like their simplicity and I like how the codet jacket has a tail to keep cold breezes out. It sounds like they are made in a similar manner to the GI liner pants (two thin nylon layers with a thin layer of poly between them)
The Cabelas also look to be pretty good. I like the thumbhole cuffs on the jacket and I like the tighter lower leg on the pants. It looks like it will make hardshell boots easier to wear without bunches of insulation being compressed inside the boot top.
I ran across some Mountain Equipment Coop Magma pants that have a Dryloft shell and Primaloft insulation. THe weight on the current model is 17oz/490g— not UL but tough enough to wear on the trail too. Mine are coming from an Ebay auction and are an older model with reinforced knees and seat. It looks like I may be able to shave a little weight by getting rid od the suspender hanrdware (if I don’t need it). It looks like a great combo for wet sloppy conditions. Anybody use them?
Dale-I use the newest model. They are nearly waterproof (Dryloft) and warm (Primaloft One @ .6″ loft). The only down sides are that the newest model doesn’t have a relief zipper and the weight for size M is ~20oz.
Mine arrived today and weigh in at 20.5oz in XL size. They remind me of the Mountain Hardwear Chugach 3D pants. They will work fine with a Micro Puff jacket and fill my goal of finding some insulated pants for camp and sleeping. Now I just need to find some booties to round out my ensemble :)
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