Jan 18, 2011 at 2:51 pm #1267910
I know this has been discussed in some detail before but I need a very newbie question answered.
Here it goes-
How does this work? They send me the kit of all the different ingredients that have been dehydrated. I make up my own meals/concoctions, package them and then boil some water to eat them on the trail??? How do u figure how much water to add if what I said earlier is correct?
I'm so sorry to ask but I'm an idiot. Couldn't find info on the Harmony's website.
Thanks a milJan 18, 2011 at 3:02 pm #1685622
I use Harmony's items in many of the recipes I have developed. Good stuff! Everything is precooked for you, so yes, when used in recipes it is add water and wait.
Certain items they sell will need a longer soaking time – green beans, green peas and sweet corn are the main 3. They tend to take a much longer time than everything else (this is true for these three items when dehydrated, freeze-dried comes back quickly though so consider buying some of them as well).
I have posted a number of recipes over the years here in this forum – any time you see "2 Tbsp diced dried carrots" or "1/4 cup cooked and dried lentils", etc, etc you can use these items from Harmony.
As well when it comes to the items you can always add the vegetables and beans to items like mac n' cheese (add them to the water before you boil it) or to any commercial made meal!Jan 18, 2011 at 3:07 pm #1685627
Duh, sorry, forgot to add:
With Harmony's items a 1:1 ratio works well. So if you make a "salad" of say:
1/4 cup lentils
1 Tbsp dried shallots or onions
2 Tbsp diced dried tomatoes
1 Tbsp diced dried carrots
You would add 1/2 cup cool water and let soak for 30 minutes. Then toss with a 1 ounce packet of shelf stable dressing (balsamic vinaigrette works nice).
Of course that is just a hippy suggestion for a recipe ;-)
If I add in vegetables to a meal I calculate that in. Example?
1 cup instant rice
2 Tbsp "x" veggies
2 Tbsp "x" veggie
flavorings of choice
= 1 1/4 cups near boiling water + 1 Tbsp olive oil. Once rehydrated (15 minutes) toss with Parmesan cheese.
That kind of thing!Jan 18, 2011 at 4:59 pm #1685665
Looking to pick up the kit. Info is good.
Thanks SarahJan 18, 2011 at 5:06 pm #1685669
@erdferkelLocale: S. California
I've been making my own freezedried meals from this, yeah, just try it out and you can always add more hot water if it's dry or it's soup if you put in too much. Carry salt and other spices with you if you make a mistake on the recipe. Also, minute rice is a good base to start from, as are crunched up ramen noodles.Jan 21, 2011 at 7:46 am #1686607
@jeepingetowahLocale: South Central
This is a great kit to start out with. Personally I would pick up the Starter pack that has beans and TVPs in it also. It is pretty good stuff, and you will be able to get a LOT of meals out of it. Great for experimenting. However, I think that other distributors have better product. But to start out and experiment, this is the best bet IMHO.Jan 21, 2011 at 9:54 am #1686661
Can you name a few other distributors? Because- "Knowing is half the battle" Sorry, just had too, but seriously I'm still searching and to have a couple of others to compare to would be helpful. ThanksJan 21, 2011 at 10:37 am #1686677
@jeepingetowahLocale: South Central
I have bought from:
Harmony House: Great value and variety, to my palette though, I feel taste could be better. All dehydro'd veggies. TVP was not that great. Personally I could only eat the hamish bits. Chickenish bits were OK… but not fabulous. Taco, beefish bits, beefish chunks, and chickenish chunks were bad, IMHO. Never got fruit here. There was a variety of beans. I have not gotten beans anywhere else, and any of these were more or less terrific; if you like beans.
Rainy Day Foods: Bought at a local retailer, some dehydro'd and some freeze dried. Fruits were awesome; only got freeze dried fruits. Only bought dehydro'd veggies. Never got TVP. Did get FREEZE dried cheese; Monterey Jack. Now that stuff is awesome and tastes GREAT!!! But is somewhat $$$. Powdered butter is great. Powdered Eggs are great.
Mountain House: Only bought ground beef and chicken also. Chicken came in large chunks. Ground beef was as expected in pellets.
THRIVE brand from ShelfReliance.com: Terrific stuff. All of it. Chicken was in small bits and pieces. Ground beef is similar to Mtn House. I got veggies; almost all freeze dried. Terrific taste, smell and texture. No fruits. Powdered eggs are great.
Freeze Dried: my favorite for color, appearance, flavor, smell, and QUICK REHYDRATION! But costs more $$ than dehydro'd. These foods have several times less calories than dehydro'd.
Dehydrated: cheaper option. food usually changes shape, and takes considerably longer to come back to life. Corn, carrots, green beans, can sometimes be crunchy after 10 minutes. At least 15 minutes is usually best. These usually have many times higher calories than freeze dried. example… blueberries. Usually they are dried and bathed in oil and sugar. But FD are like 4 calories for a tbsp; roughly.
Anyone else know any reputable places/experiences?Jan 21, 2011 at 12:53 pm #1686734
It depends on what you want and how much of it you want. I have yet to have anything bad or even mediocre from Harmony. They have fair prices, good shipping deals and a superior product.
If you want large amounts of things like butter powder, cheese powders, yogurt powder go to the actual source which is http://www.frontiercoop.com/ – they sell retail in 1 lb bags. They are the source for much of what other companies repackage in small amounts. They also carry some of the best sun-dried tomatoes, bell peppers and carrots out there. Again, superior service and product. They also run shipping deals and if you get on their mailing list you often get deals sent. (Same with Harmony as well)
Packitgourmet.com is my choice for small amounts – say you want soy sauce powder. You don't need a ton. A small bag will last forever. Very good service, family owned. Shipping deals as well.
BTW, Harmony House DOES sell freeze-dried fruits and vegetables – they are on separate pages from the dried items.Jan 21, 2011 at 3:54 pm #1686803
Daniel OsellaBPL Member
I am still waiting for my Harmony House sampler so I cannot give you my opinion yet. I was really happy with all of the products I tried from Just Tomatoes.
http://justtomatoes.com/jtstore/pc/home.aspJan 25, 2011 at 6:18 am #1688173
Packit Gourmet also has some of their own sample packs:
They have a mix of freeze-dried and dehydrated items. Some of the larger packs also have powdered milk, eggs, etc.Feb 15, 2011 at 9:49 pm #1697245
@pittsburghLocale: Bay Area
My favorite that I've used has been AlpineAire. I like to get the bulk cans, then pre-measure individual meals. I can look at where I'm hiking, the elevation gains/losses, and figure if I should have average size meals or double up if it's difficult hiking. Less salty than other packaged brands, great variety, and a few dishes I love. I crave the 'Bananas Foster' even when I'm at home on my couch lol
You can't go wrong with Harmony House though. Just make sure you get enough calories & your food doesnt taste like tire rubber. :)
*disclaimer: even though I'm sponsored by AlpineAire on my thru-hike, I've been using their stuff for years by choice.
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