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alternate for bivy – super duper cheap?

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PostedDec 27, 2010 at 5:08 pm

Hey all…

Tyvek blanket over my sleeping bag & pad? Anyone done this? I'm on a non existent budget and want something to back up a tarp in case spindrift comes under the sides or if I cowboy it to keep dew off my down bag. I've seen people mention 'Taco Style' is this similar? I mean a 4'x 8' piece of material ought to cover me almost as good as a sewn bivy right?

Eventually a breathable bivy is the answer, but has anyone toyed with ideas along these lines? I'm not considering this to be a long term durable piece. More like an insurance plan if rain/wind becomes more than a small tarp(poncho tarp) can handle.

How about a garbage bag cut open? I feel like that would just rain condensation on me though?

Conditions I would expect to try this in would be summer to early fall in the Sierra Nevada.(think typical JMT conditions) I'm not thinking about bugs or anything right now and would address that separately.

Thanks! Looking forward to your responses…

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PostedDec 27, 2010 at 6:04 pm

I was thinking of doing something similar. GossamerGear sells 2-packs of polycyro groundcloth (1oz or so each). I was thinking I could throw one over me to keep off light rain spray (maybe with a Hexamid, which I was thinking of buying).

Doubt it'd be great it really nasty conditions, but might work well for normal conditions. Thoughts?

Bob Gross BPL Member
PostedDec 27, 2010 at 6:18 pm

You can buy durable ground sheet material, or you can buy the cheapest and lightest thing. That is probably a 9'x12' painter's plastic drop cloth in the thinnest piece that your local Home Depot store sells. Once you get it home, you can cut it into two pieces, just depending exactly how you intend to use it. If so, you have two pieces each 9'x6', and that is large enough to cover lots of things in a wet situation.

–B.G.–

PostedDec 27, 2010 at 6:56 pm

i was think along the same lines but with polycro. tyvek is not fully waterproof and does not pack as tightly as polycro. but i think tyvek is tougher if you had to guy it out in windy conditions. never tried either though, let us know how it goes.

Brian Camprini BPL Member
PostedDec 27, 2010 at 7:15 pm

I live in an area that's much more humid than you do, but even if I were in the desert, I still wouldn't want to cover my sleeping bag with any kind of plastic all night long. You'll almost certainly wake up with a soaking wet bag from condensation. Tyvek or any breathable fabric would work much better IMO. You don't see anyone selling plastic bivy sacks do you? There's a good reason for that.

Or maybe better yet, just put a really good coat of DWR on your bag (the stuff you set into the fabric in the dryer, not just the spray on stuff) and do a really good job setting up your shelter. Unless you are using a very minimalist tarp, you can stay dry without a bivy sack.

Jason G BPL Member
PostedDec 27, 2010 at 9:35 pm

Adventure medical sells 2 emergency blanket bivys for pretty cheap..

PostedDec 27, 2010 at 11:05 pm

Good advice in this thread already.

i'd vote for no bivy or cover at all. Spindrift is highly unlikely in the summer in the sierra. Dew isn't a big deal, you'll almost always be able to dry out during the day. Most nights aren't dewy, and if they are, sleep under trees or your tarp to mitigate the problem.

PostedDec 28, 2010 at 3:57 am

+1 on this comment. Get good at pitching your tarp; you will be surprised at how effective it can be.

PostedDec 28, 2010 at 5:00 am

An alternative to tyvek that I've had good luck with if you're expecting nasty storms and the like is to wrap up in a Driducks poncho. It breaths really well and is completely waterproof. I paired it with a GG ground cloth.

Keep in mind that by "good luck" I mean it didn't rain as hard as I thought it was going to but it did keep the splash off of me under a 5×8 some nights.

PostedDec 29, 2010 at 5:11 pm

Thanks all!

Brian Camprini…that thread is perfect! That is exactly what I'm thinking of. My first attempt probably will be a bit more crude than those ones, but it's good to know that for the most part, the tyvek material WILL stand up to relatively frequent use. Interesting too that in some ways, it seems to perform better than traditional bivy materials(sil, event, momentum etc)

I'm steering away from anything like polycro simply for breathabilty reasons.

Thanks again all. I'll resurrect this thread and post some photos if/when I actually get around to this.

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