Sep 5, 2006 at 2:36 am #1219509
@rlmckayLocale: Wanaka NZ
Am I on to something here? Just discovered O2 Rainshield wet weather jackets (5.7oz- 162gms) and Pants (4.15oz – 118gms). The set at $49.95!!! The weight, price and testimonials on the website seem too good to be true. Anybody had any experience with this gear?Sep 5, 2006 at 5:42 am #1362390
@peter_panLocale: Co-Owner Jacks 'R' Better, LLC, VA
Used a set for years and about 900 miles of AT…work great…repairs easy with duct tape…Consider Dri Ducks for another color option.
PanSep 5, 2006 at 7:49 am #1362401
Bob BankheadBPL Member
@wandering_bobLocale: Oregon, USA
True enough, Jack. I used a set for three years on PCT section hikes. Handled the Sierra afternoon cloudburst well. For short term, intermittent use, they are great.
That said, I would NOT take it into northern Washington, or anyplace else where you can get days on end of wind-driven cold rains. The O2 material is simply not durable enough to withstand constant abrasion from packstraps and brush. The pants are especially prone to splitting at the crotch seam. Wise is he (or she) who goes up one size on their pants.
Wandering BobSep 5, 2006 at 8:30 am #1362402
The non-woven material is fragile. IMHO, given how fragile they are, you may as well buy cheaper ones (but equally light and waterproof/breathable) like DriDucks or Micropore.
These jackets and rainpants are superb UL options. However, they shouldn’t be your only rain gear option. Know their limitations and use them appropriately.Sep 5, 2006 at 6:57 pm #1362470
@greyhoundLocale: Sierra Nevada
I spent 3 solid days in March in a rainstorm in Point Reyes, and I was in my 02 rainsheild suite the whole time.
In March there was a lot of growth over and around the trail, but I only got a small rip in the pant leg.
Breathability and waterproofness were great.
Only real complaint was no brim, so water was streaming down my face (next time, bring a hat).
Overall, I definitly would recomend them.Sep 5, 2006 at 7:48 pm #1362474
Don’t wear a hat. Rain will likely work its way through the collar of the rain jacket — not to mention pooling into the unused hood. Instead, wear a cap to serve as ‘visor”, but still allowing you to put on the hood.Sep 6, 2006 at 10:14 am #1362505
Ross BleakneyBPL Member
I bought an 02 jacket/pants a few years ago and recently bought a Drop Stoppers jacket. They are very similar; very light, breathable, waterproof and very, very fragile. I recommend you take it off if you are travelling in a brushy area (one sharp branch can puncture it). For the price and durability, they are almost disposable. I prefer the tweety bird yellow of the 02 over the drab grey of the Drop Stoppers, but not enough to pay the extra money.Sep 6, 2006 at 11:01 am #1362508
I have a set of DriDucks. The style and cutting are horrible — just like the Drop Stoppers. However, the color is an OK khaki.
Looking at the BPL store’s website, I always thought the Drop Stoppers have the same khaki color as well. But are they actually “drab grey” in reality?Sep 6, 2006 at 2:46 pm #1362524
I’ve had the jacket for 2 years now. It has surpassed my expectations. If you’re staying on the trail and can stand a little babying, then it should be plenty durable. I’ve used it in all seasons and it survived a winter hike up Mt. Washington just fine. I haven’t had any functional problems with abrasion from pack straps. My 2 recommendations:
-Go up 1 size (to guarantee a loose fit around the shoulders).
-Add a couple of cheap cordlocks so that you can make a good seal with the hood.Sep 6, 2006 at 4:18 pm #1362533
Ross BleakneyBPL Member
Oops, I stand corrected (I have no memory for colors). They are khaki, not grey. In my opinion it is a boring, drab color. I wouldn’t mind a T-shirt or pair of pants in that color, but it makes it hard to see from a distance (especially if it is raining or foggy). This is kind of a pain at times and could be a real problem in an emergency situation. Then again, some people might not like looking like a giant duck either (as with the O2) :)Sep 6, 2006 at 9:28 pm #1362548
I see. Khaki it is. Thanks for clarifying!Sep 7, 2006 at 2:18 am #1362554
@rlmckayLocale: Wanaka NZ
Thanks guys – great help – I managed to contact Adam (the “big Cheese” ) at O2, Here is what he said (note he is very honest re duribility….
Our garment, outside of eVENT, is the most breathable garment on the market to our knowledge. It is over 10,000 MVT, and the US Gov’t has tested it to be this way. It is also 100% waterproof, its a membrane, not a coating. The big issue with our gear vs. Marmot or others, is our garments are made from nonwoven spunbound fibers. The garment’s membrane is on the outside of the jacket and a spider-web like fabric is the interior. It is extremely lightweight, waterproof, breathable, and compact, but it lacks in DURABILITY. It is intended for walking/biking/hiking/running/fishing etc… It is not made for an environment that it could snag or get roughed up, as it would tear thru the membrane.Sep 7, 2006 at 3:55 am #1362561
Bill FornshellBPL Member
@bfornshellLocale: Southern Texas
I have several of the O2 products. I was even able to get 11 yards of two different colors of the material when 3M was still making it. 3M called it Propore(TM). It is really great stuff but not real strong as has been stated. The yellow and white Fabric is about 2.37oz per sq yard.
The yellow and a white color were the light weight material. They also made a dark blue that was a little heavier. I have some yardage in the the blue also. I didn’t record the weight of the blue.Sep 7, 2006 at 10:03 am #1362571
Agree, and that goes back to my view all along that given the same lack of durability, lack of style, etc. — but same great breathability and waterproofness — you may as well get the cheapest version — the Micropore at BPL. When it rips (and it will and perhaps sooner than you think) — you will kick yourself less.
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