BPL Cocoon Pants – fill? like ’em? sizing?

Can anyone comment on sizing, type of fill and warmth?

What do you recommend for down pants for packing?

just looking

PS- "you" meaning anyone

I prefer down pants over synthetic ones like the cocoon. There are advantages to synthetics, but insulating pants are one of the easier things to keep dry since you don't normally wear them while hiking.

I have Goosefeet down pants that weigh 7.3oz with about 3oz of down. They are lighter, cheaper, pack smaller and warmer than the cocoon pants.

EJ,

Sizing chart is here.

Dan that's a good point. I should say we're interested in lighter insulative pants, synthetic and down. Sounds like down would be a better bet.

Coming from the wet Northeast and from traditional all-synthetic clothing and insulation, been transitioning to merino and down.

Doug, saw sizing chart – doesn't mean it's accurate. I've seen sizing off by as much as a full 1-2 sizes by major gear makers as well as mainstream clothing manufacturers, so always good to check.

True, true. I bought a pair of the mediums (because I usually wear a medium in a pant) from a BPLer last year. They were huge. So I checked the sizing chart, and realized that BPL really sizes these rather big! Sold them without ever wearing them.

BPL's Chris Wallace bought a pair last year, I believe. You might want to check with him if you're still interested in the sizing (though it looks like you're leaning toward down pants — good choice!)

>> I have Goosefeet down pants that weigh 7.3oz with about 3oz of down. They are lighter, cheaper, pack smaller and warmer than the cocoon pants.

I like mine, but haven't used them much. I tend to wear rain pants when things are a bit chilly and just go to sleep when things get really cold. I haven't done much shoulder season backpacking. As to the size, you could probably get away with a medium for the man, but I would go with a large. I have a medium, but as a 6'00" guy, I have an unusually long torso. I'm also pretty skinny and there isn't a huge amount or room on the waist (although I think you would fit it just fine on every day but last Thursday). So, unless you want to have it be above the ankles a bit (which isn't the end of the world) then I would go with a large.

I picked up a medium pair off the gear swap for a good price. I am 6'2" and 210 and wear 34 waist/32 inseam pants. They fit me pretty close in the waist and hips over a thin baselayer. I wouldn't be able to wear them over my normal hiking pants. I plan to use them mostly for sleeping. They are very soft and comfy and weigh 7oz on my scale.

I also have a pair of the older cocoon full zip pants in a large and they have a very roomy fit that is similar to the Micro Puff pants.

Ryan

The fill is proprietary. Having said that, it's 80g and I'm told it's similar to Climashield/PolarGuard/etc.

As to sizing, I bought a small and it's roomy enough to fit over my trekking layer.

I'm 5'8, 143ish, ~29 inch waist. I also typically wear a small in base layers. The Cocoon items are sized to fit over a similar sized (ie. small vs small) base.

Rough guess, I'd go large for you, and small for your lady.

I think the Cabela's 550 fill down pants for $60. (reg. length) are about the best insulated pants buy out there right now. BPL's Cocoon pants are pricey for synthetic fill.