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Columbia calls ‘B.S.’ on Outdoors Industry

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James holden BPL Member
PostedNov 10, 2010 at 4:05 pm

columbia wants to stop being a discount brand and go dino hunting … awww … lol

must say the omni-heat commercials with hawt gurls are pretty captivating ;)

http://gearjunkie.com/columbia-sportswear-2011-electric-heated-jackets?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+thegearjunkie%2Fdd+%28The+Gear+Junkie+-+Daily+Dose%29

With strong words and pointed language aimed at the outdoors industry, big promises on new technology, and theatrical skaters twirling amid spotlights on synthetic ice at an events center in the meatpacking district of New York City, Columbia Sportswear Company of Portland, Ore., last week announced its plans to become “the most innovative company in the outdoors.” The big claim, recited onstage by a Columbia VP during a media launch party, set the tone for a night of product unveilings that included heated outerwear and gloves, base layers lined with a grid of metallic dots, a new and proprietary waterproof-breathable membrane for jackets, and a promise to “take down Gore-Tex and other dinosaurs in the industry that stopped trying a long time ago.”

The spicy rhetoric and insider polemics are part of a plan by Columbia to reboot a company that’s slouched toward commoditization and complacency in recent years. And those are words from the company itself, not me. “We’re calling bullshiet on old and bad technology — even if it’s our own,” said an executive at the event, which I attended last week along with a couple dozen additional media people from the United States and abroad.

What’s all the fuss about? How about a $1,200 Columbia jacket, or gloves laced with carbon-fiber filaments that seep heat? A new membrane by Columbia — a “Gore-Tex killer,” as was tossed around — will rely on a polyethylene layer to offer increased breathability to a waterproof jacket line. A new spread of base layers have a pattern of metallic dots for heat retention and sweat wicking ability. Boots will employ li-ion batteries for electric heat, and Columbia’s winter parkas will soon be charged via cables and USB ports on laptop computers before being zipped on to head outside and into the chill.

“The outdoors industry has become stale,” said a Columbia exec at the event. “We want to grow the market through innovation.” As Columbia sees it, rising athletic brands like Under Armour and Lululemon are pulling significant market share away from traditional outdoors companies. The reason, Columbia estimates, is a lack of innovation in the outdoors world. A suite of new products for 2011 and beyond, the company touts, will change that paradigm.

It’s worth restating: The big claim Columbia makes is that it wants to become “the most innovative company in the outdoors.” No mixing words.

It is rare for an outdoors brand to point fingers and talk blunt. But I found the conversation at the Columbia event to be honest and appropriate for a theatrical launch event that was pitched as a “coming out party” for a brand that has suffered in the street-cred category in recent years. The Columbia brand, which started up in 1938, hit the big time in the 1980s with its Bugaboo ski jackets. It rode the Bugaboo wave for years, expanding the “Buga-” branding to boots and company taglines and marketing-speak.

But Columbia drifted, rested on its laurels, and its products slouched. The brand was on the verge of becoming a commodity-name label in discount department stores, one Columbia exec noted. New hires at the company beginning a couple years ago, and a renewed sense that innovation and a range of products (including higher-end items) was key to getting company sales going, has seemingly sparked off a passion internally to shoot for the stars.

Columbia’s electronically-heated boots and gloves
The bright points in the Columbia cosmos will soon include a line for 2011 with the aforementioned embedded heated elements. There are nine jackets, including soft- and hard-shell models, as well as a winter glove and several boot models laced with carbon-fiber filament and the company’s Omni-Heat Thermal Electric battery technology.

The company built the new heat system in house, hiring an engineer from Intel to take on the task, plus working with a crew of third-party engineers. Many other companies have tried and failed with electric heat. Columbia thinks it has a new formula that will work, and it’s selling jackets next year that will hover between $750 and $1,200 for the initial launch if you want to take a try.

The release of a new base-layer series was news, too. The Omni-Heat Thermal Reflective design incorporates a vast matrix of metallic dots. The resulting silvery inner shine on the new Columbia layers reflects body heat a la a Space Blanket yet wicks and breathes, the company touts. (I did a five-mile run one morning in New York in an Omni-Heat base-layer shirt, and the initial test was positive on my part.)

Finally, with its recent acquisition of OutDry, an Italian company that has a waterproof-breathable product, Columbia used the New York press launch to pimp new footwear that employs the OutDry mix. Tanks of colorful dyed water to submerge footwear and compare/contrast tests with Gore-Tex-based shoes was a part of the fun at the press event.

Overall, the Columbia launch party proved to be a memorable night. To be sure, the ice skaters, gelled lights, and polyethylene membranes made it unique. With its big claims, the company has gone out on a long tree limb. In the coming months, as its heated and reflective products are put to test, we’ll see how sturdy the new Columbia branch can be.

PostedNov 10, 2010 at 4:18 pm

Well contrary to many people's opinions I think Columbia has done good things with Montrail shoes. They are right about one thing at least, they have certainly been overlooked by most people seeking top-of-the-line gear because they dont provide much on the cutting edge. Oh, and gore-tex is dead.

PostedNov 10, 2010 at 4:36 pm

Excellent news!

Cuben fiber? SOOOOO yesterday.
High quality, lightweight eVent shelters in a variety of styles? Puuuhleez.

What the industry really needs is more battery-powered clothing.

PostedNov 10, 2010 at 4:49 pm

Hasn't battery powered clothing been tried more than a few times (some $500 TNF softshell a few years ago comes to mind)? Not the direction I'd go…

BUT, Eddie Bauer has done a very good job with their First Ascent line, so if Columbia decides not to be gimmicky and produces affordable, well designed gear, that's great. Their rhetoric, unfortunately, does not lead me to believe that will be the case.

James holden BPL Member
PostedNov 10, 2010 at 4:55 pm

eddie bauer has definately done a very good job … in a very short time theyve made themselves into a credible outdoor value brand that just works

note how theyve done this with NO new technology … they just take whats there and design it in a no frills way …

and have real guides test and use it … and advertise the fact

an anti-yuppay brand if you will

columbia is going a different way with star trek technology … well find out if it works or not

Travis L BPL Member
PostedNov 10, 2010 at 5:03 pm

My dad was interested in those battery powered heated boots for hunting because he has issues keeping his feet warm.

When I told them they were $350, he said, "I'll keep my cold feet." No way was he spending that much money!

PostedNov 10, 2010 at 6:36 pm

I'm going to go out on a very short and stout limb and predict that the $1000 electric clothing is going to flop when it hits the market. Someone is going to get burned and everyone is going to forget to recharge their clothing. It just seems like taking something that works and complicating it in order to sell. Doesn't seem very intuitive to me.

PostedNov 10, 2010 at 6:39 pm

I couldn't disagree more about EB getting back into the outdoor industry. Sorry, but when you have to close items out at 60-70% off retail, that isn't taking marketshare. While their clothes may be nice, I wouldn't know, if they aren't selling at a profitable price, it's short lived.

James holden BPL Member
PostedNov 10, 2010 at 7:04 pm

most big names including patagucci and arcteryx close out their gear at a certain point in the season

i get dead bird at 50% off at their outlet here …

big box brands have a lot more volume ,,, they arent cottage manuf

PostedNov 10, 2010 at 7:15 pm

In the past 5 years I freeze all the time. I'd love UL battery powered heated clothing.
It would be wonderful.

It is an untapped market with women.

Unlike all of you hot men :-P

Dustin Short BPL Member
PostedNov 10, 2010 at 7:27 pm

It is an untapped market with women.

Unlike all of you hot men :-P

Hey, not all of us men are hot, some of us get cold too, especially on mountain tops.

Ohhh…I see what you did there!

PostedNov 10, 2010 at 7:35 pm

First, thought that commercial posts were limited to another forum.

In any event, have an old Columbia nylon lined poly/cotton pullover with upper(little) and lower (big) kangaroo pockets that has served me well for many years for winter hiking and snowshoeing. A truly excellent product, but not in the ultra-light category.

But now … This is what happens when a company is taken over by marketing mavens. Have been reading about it in the Dilbert comic strip for years. This is just a grosser example of what we see all the time.

Too bad.

PostedNov 10, 2010 at 7:36 pm

This is the jacket I recalled reading about… looks like reliability was an issue. I think I'd always be worried about battery or electronic failure and would carry an insulated jacket as a back up, making the heated garment redundant.

http://www.backcountry.com/the-north-face-met5-jacket

Peter; you may well be correct about EB's business model, but I was only commenting on the design and quality of the FA gear. I am impressed by the utilitarian offerings using quality materials that fit (me) well. Perhaps they have set a bad precedent with the steap closeout prices, as that may have set consumer expectations, but I still like the offerings.

it's good to see that us hot men are getting some recognition…

PostedNov 10, 2010 at 8:06 pm

I'd love UL battery powered heated clothing.

I don't think Columbia is thinking UL with their battery powered line. I think they are thinking SUH (Super Ultra Heavy).

PostedNov 10, 2010 at 8:59 pm

Interesting topic. Columbia is off-track with the techno approach. From what I can see, the First Ascent line is doing very well. They seem to be expanding their product offerings and now have the First Descent team doing kayak expeditions and so on. I especially enjoy reading the First Ascent blog and think they are doing an excellent job in the social marketing world, which helps build interest. When you have a team of top-guides using your gear and writing regular blog posts with killer photos that show that gear, well, it's not the worst strategy I've seen.

PostedNov 10, 2010 at 9:00 pm

I'm not sure what to make of this new initiative by Columbia. Frankly, I didn't know that Columbia ever had much credibility in the outdoor industry for innovative technical clothing- as long as I can remember, they've been the "high end" brand at a Sears, Walmart or Gander Mountain. Though, Gander Mountain has been carrying North Face for a few years now and seems to have just started carrying Mountain Hardwear as well- can't be a good sign for MH…

Anyway- I wouldn't say that they weren't "on the verge of becoming a commodity-name label in discount department stores" because that's all they've been for years. Maybe not for downhill skiers, though I somehow doubt that they've had much cred for years. The branding I grew up with in the 1990s was that Columbia was for skiers, but even then it was a brand that people wore because of the brand more than anything else, sort of like North Face is for most consumers today. That said, North Face still makes some good stuff- I can't say I've been tempted to buy anything with a Columbia logo on it for many years. I suppose I do have a newer pair of Montrails, though…

On the Electro-gimmick:
I think you're right, Dan. With the kind of battery technology they'd be using it's inevitable that battery-powered electrically heated clothing will be heavy. At least, if the battery powered heat is anything bit a really silly gimmick. No way to get around that, I'm afraid.

On Eddie Bauer:
I'm not sure myself. I wouldn't be surprised if Peter was right, but that seems to be the way Eddie Bauer does things. When the current clearance started, it wasn't like it was just FA stuff- they have big clearances almost every year as they turn over styles and colors. Pretty normal for a premium retailer.

That said, I'd never purchased anything from Eddie Bauer until I got a few clearance First Ascent items. Since then, I've actually loaded up, mostly stuff on clearance but a lot of it not even First Ascent. I purchased my first non-clearance item last week- a BC-200 hard shell. I never would have spent that kind of money on a hard shell from EB/FA without having gotten a sense of the quality of the stuff I got on clearance.

I had a 20% coupon from the catalog mailed to me, but personally there's no way I'd buy much from Marmot, TNF, MH, Patagucci, or Arc'teryx without it being on clearance, SAC, or at least having some 20% off coupon at REI.

PostedNov 10, 2010 at 9:33 pm

Oddly enough my favorite hiking pants are from Columbia (bought at REI). They are 1/2 the weight of my old REI Sahara pants and fit way better. Cheaper also.

PostedNov 10, 2010 at 9:35 pm

I see they're taking a "fight fire with fire" approach in their battle against BS.

Dale Wambaugh BPL Member
PostedNov 10, 2010 at 11:07 pm

Put that on your garden and the flowers will grow :)

I looked over the silver lining on the new Columbia stuff. Nice idea, but the rest of the garment is a yawner— heavy, nothing special in the shell or insulation. Columbia turns out a decent piece now and then, but I see most as budget ski and school stuff. Their packs are unadulterated junk.

The spendy electric stuff gets the market press chattering, but c'mon— $1200?

BTW, Columbia owns Mountain Hardwear as well as Montrail. I can't see Columbia doing much on the hiking side of things with those companies taking care of that part of the market.

Outdoor stuff is big business and big fashion. If you want a mind blower, check out the companies that Jarden owns: http://www.jarden.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=72395&p=outdoor-solutions

PostedNov 11, 2010 at 6:54 am

I think it is great that they are willing to dump some money into R&D and try to be relevant again. I remember when they were a respected provider of outdoor gear. My first Gore-Tex parka was from Columbia. (It did not breathe ;-)

Personally I would not trust a heated parka for backpacking because of the chance I could be left with nothing should the battery run out or fail. But I can see where some may want it for cold rides up the ski lift. (Like I have 1,200.00 bucks for a coat, right…)

PostedNov 11, 2010 at 7:47 am

If Columbia REALLY wants to be taken seriously, they should bring back Moonstone. What they did to such a great company is unconscionable. Mountain Hardwear is next….

BF

PostedNov 11, 2010 at 5:55 pm

I forgot they bought them, and I agree with you.

I never understood how they could buy a company that was cutting edge with their down products and just let it die. I still have a Cassin Ridge bag because I have never found anything better than it that would not cost me a fortune. (I loved the Lucid with it's see-through shell too.)

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