Clothing/ Sleeping Gear 30 degrees

you dont need the thermawrap and the alpine light … as long as you can keep it dry id just bring the alpine light

you dont need insulated pants at those temps with that quilt

i agree, no need for the thermawrap. I would feel more confident with a decision to drop the fleece pants only IF u got a better pad than a generic blue foam pad. Since youre quilting it, you need more r-value imo or youll have cold legs/feet. Also, will there be snow? Do you plan on hanging out in camp or straight into the tent/quilt? What pants are you hikin in?

I plan on hanging out in camp for an hour or two and the fleece pants re more for that function tha for in my bag.

For legs, I take a different approach than you've listed when I hike in those temps. I think this combo gives you ability to handle a very wide variety of conditions

While hiking:
7 oz — comfy hiking shorts, whatever model you use in warm weather.
5 oz — lightweight long johns (wool or synthetic)

In camp, and/or in case the daytime weather gets colder or wetter:
4 to 5 oz — rain pants or wind pants

And for camp only:
5 or 6 oz — 2nd pair long johns

One pair long johns + wind/rain pants are warmer than fleece pants. The second pair of long johns is the always-dry pair, so if you have foul weather during the day you still have a dry base layer to retreat to. And if the long johns you hike in aren't saturated at the end of the day, you can double up the long johns and be roasty.

And, very important, you'll be the height of fashion hiking in your long johns and shorts :)

"And, very important, you'll be the height of fashion hiking in your long johns and shorts :)"

Hey, I resemble that remark.

Agreed on the utility of rain or wind pants over long john bottoms. I find that combo is plenty warm down into the 20s just sitting around camp, if I have a decent warm jacket and good socks. My wife made me a pair of wind pants from some light ripstop — they weigh less than 2 ounces and are quite water resistant, too.

if you do plan to use rain pants over thermal bottoms while hiking …make sure you get a 3/4 or full zip … youll be glad for the venting

i recommend the full zip if youre going to be doing serious winter activities …