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    Paul Davis
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    @fauxrealz

    Locale: East Coast

    I'm fairly new to backpacking and am very interested in what you might consider a good clothing system. I'm not worried about weight for the clothes that I'll be wearing, but I'd like to keep the packed weight under 2.5 pounds. Not that it would be difficult to do. Just looking for pointers.

    #1651239
    todd
    BPL Member

    @funnymo

    Locale: SE USA

    Paul,

    Where will you be hiking? Constant rain? Snow? Temperature range?

    Answers to these will help us give the best advice!

    Todd

    #1651244
    Paul Davis
    Member

    @fauxrealz

    Locale: East Coast

    I guess I just forgot some important information.

    I'm trying to compile a closet of a good go-to three season wardrobe. Assume summer highs and night time lows around freezing.

    I understand that this might not give much more info, but I'm planning on completing a thru hike next spring/ summer and conditions over a time span like this are not exactly predictable or steady.

    Thanks again

    #1651378
    Don Jones
    BPL Member

    @djfrogg

    Locale: Pacific Northwest

    Paul, your use of the word system suggests that you are interesting in "layering systems" The best article on this subject I know about is the following:

    http://www.highcountryexplorations.com/Fine_Art_of_Layering.html

    This article is quite detailed and comprehensive (I know because I wrote it). This URL directs you to a preview of a 17 page MSWord article sold ($1.25) in my webstore. Send me a personal email off this site and I will send you the full article free. Suggestion: read this article and others about layering and then create a new post with more specific questions.

    Sherpa Don

    #1651384
    Don Jones
    BPL Member

    @djfrogg

    Locale: Pacific Northwest

    Paul, here is another highly detailed artlcle on layering and clothing systems by a regular BPL contributor: Mark Verber.

    http://www.verber.com/mark/outdoors/gear/clothing.html

    In my previous post on this subject, I made reference to sending a request to my personal email. Here it is: [email protected]

    Sherpa Don

    #1651410
    Dale Wambaugh
    BPL Member

    @dwambaugh

    Locale: Pacific Northwest

    I've said that it would be interesting for one of the big clothing manufacturer's to make a coordinated clothing system. I've been asking the same questions about optimal clothing selections for UL hiking. Personal preference and comfort levels, climate, weight and cost are the variables I have come to. Take your pick on order.

    Here's my quick and dirty take on the options I have seen:

    Base layer: wicking polyester or merino wool tees and briefs. Go to long sleeves and long johns in cooler weather. Many brands on this level.

    Mid layer: needs definition. IMHO, that is something like a heavier base layer, like Power Stretch, heavier Capilene grades or 100w fleece. I'm out of touch on the the thicker wool options. Tops and bottoms available.

    Insulation: wide range of stuff here. 200w fleece, MontBell Thermawrap, Patagonia Nano Puff. There are similar thin down garments, with MontBell being very popular.

    Next step up on insulation would be thicker polyfil models like Mountain Hardwear Compressor, BPL Cocoon, Patagonia Micro Puff and others. On the down side (my pun), down sweaters like the ones made by Eddie Bauer/First Ascent, Patagonia and others.

    Basic outer layers: button down nylon shirts like Ex Officio, REI, and others. Nylon pants convertible at your preference, and shorts. I'm just experimenting with soft shell pants. Soft shell jackets seem to fall off the UL wagon.

    Shells:

    Windshirts: simple shells from 2+ ounces on up. Pertex is popular. Montane, Patagonia, Integral Designs, MontBell, GoLite, and Marmot are all players, among others.

    Wind pants: much like windshirts. IMHO, only if you are wearing light shorts and need long pants coverage. I go the convertible pants route and pass on this option.

    Rain shells: coated single layer shells like Event, Marmot Precip, Patagonia Rain Shadow. Heavier, tougher options like 2.5 layer Gore-Tex and others. Bi-laminates like Driducks. Ventilation is a very good thing.

    Rain ponchos: some double as shelters. Mostly silicone-coated nylon (silnylon), some Cuben fiber is out there too.

    So, polyester or wool for base layers and synthetic fill or down for insulation. No small amount of debate available.

    How you layer it up depends on the climate and temperature range. For a thru-hike you might change seasons, climate, and altitude, so there may not be one static kit to do it all. What you can tolerate for heat and cold is a factor too.

    My basic 3-season kit for Western Cascades:

    Merino wool socks
    Light wicking polyester briefs
    Capilene silk weight tee
    Capilene silk weight long johns (shoulder seasons)
    Windshirt
    Convertible nylon pants (or soft shell)
    Power Stretch or 100w fleece long sleeve zip top
    Light polyester fill jacket
    Patagonia Rain Shadow rain shell (left out when using poncho shelter)
    GoLite Reed rain pants
    Tilley LT3 hat
    Outdoor Research Peruvian Windblock fleece cap
    Mountain Hardwear Tempest gloves (shell with micro fleece)

    I can juggle a little for full summer stuff, wearing a button-down shirt and shorts, leave out a layer, etc. Colder shoulder seasons may find me in heavier pants, thicker base layers, heavier insulation. My bias is to wet weather and moderate temperatures.

    The real core to an UL clothing kit is not duplicating and a selection of layers that work together in several combinations, and multiple use if possible (like poncho and shelter). In a perfect world, you should be able to wear it all in the most extreme conditions. There are two worlds you live in: hiking with a load and sitting still. The trick is to be comfortable in both with whatever Mommy Nature throws your way.

    There will be many opinions :)

    #1653983
    josh wagner
    Member

    @stainlesssteel

    here's about the most simple and thorough list of equipment i've seen concerning AT thrus by THE MAN. winton porter

    http://www.backpacker.com/november_08_pack_man_/articles/12659?page=4

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