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Emergency winter backcountry stove

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PostedAug 3, 2006 at 4:38 pm

I do back country snowboarding in Northern Japan, Hakkoda to be exact. January and February are brutal beyond belief, with the weather as unpredictable as a schizophrenic PMSing French poodle. In January and February is when we get most of our four-meter base, and that is not total precipitation but actual accumulation.

I already own a steel gigapower Snow speak stove, which works great for planned overnight trips. What I need is a minimalistic snow-melting stove to put on my emergency pack, for those unplanned overnight trips :)

What is the lowest temperature rating for alcohol stoves, something like Jim Wood’s Super Cat?

What is the lowest temperature rating for Esbit tabs?

Is there a different fuel that I could burn on the alcohol stove that would give me better low temperature performance?

Thanks in advance, your answers might in fact save my life this coming winter, or I guess get me killed as the case may be :)

– Abdon

PostedAug 4, 2006 at 7:46 pm

“the weather as unpredictable as a schizophrenic PMSing French poodle”
That just made my day.

It sounds like the weather here.

My standard day bc ski tour carry is a couple of esbit tabs with the idea of using them to light up timber.

91-95% alcohol shouldn’t have any trouble lighting up with some fire applied I wouldn’t think.

PostedAug 5, 2006 at 2:49 am

An alcohol stove certainly isn’t the best thing to be using for melting snow. Alcohol doesn’t vaporize as easily in cold weather and melting snow is probably the worst thing you could try to do with it, the snow will sap any heat from the stove itself and will make it exremely difficult to get going. For an emergency stove, that is not the problem you want when you find yourself in a, well, emergency.

I was out on a trip about a year ago where I started to recognise the first signs of hypothermia in myself and needed to get myself warmed up. I had a real job getting my alcohol stove going in the cold and there wasn’t any snow around. So snow would certainly make it worse.

I have been considering the possibility of fitting a small attachemnt to my alcohol stoves that would enable a tea light candle to sit underneath the stove and for the candle flame to heat the stove and alcohol inside. That might work although I haven’t tried it yet.

You could also look at some of the chemically heated ready to eat meals. If your looking to protect yourself for an emergency overnight stay, they are effective.

Scott

Steven Nelson BPL Member
PostedAug 5, 2006 at 10:11 am

The “Yu-can” stove that Monty Alford’s “Winter Wise” book shows is made just for this. With the right construction, it could be made reasonably light.

(It’s made of a couple of food cans, a little snipping and bending, and uses tea lights for heat).

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