Layering question

I've owned (and subsequently sold) both. Quite different shirts.

The R1 is warmer, dries much faster and wicks much better. It has marginally worse wind resistance, though neither does much in this area. The Indie is much looser fitting.

I think the R1 is perfect, except it's too warm (for me) too be all that useful. I found that it had to be really cold (single digits or less) for me to be able to wear it while moving actively. It'd be a great inner-mid layer for less active pursuits like winter climbing or area skiing, but I don't do those much. If Patagonia made an R1 hoody out of capilene 3 I'd buy 3 or 4 of them.

I didn't like the Indie much. The fit is too baggy, and for me 200 weight wool takes too long to dry and wicks too poorly to be good for anything other than riding the townie to the coffee shop. Others that sweat less like thicker wool, though I see no excuse for the baggy fit.

I really don't have to worry about the wicking as I don't sweat too much. There are no hills let alone mountains around here to speak of and I really don't push myself while I am out.

The R1 is a bit small in an XL for me but unfortunately that is the biggest size they make. I really don't care for the thumb loops on it either. I think one of my R.5's would work just as well as it does.

The Indie Hoody is a pretty good fit and not baggy at all on me bit it is more loose than the R1.

I am also sure that which ever midlayer pared with my T and a shell will keep me warm down to freezing while walking if nothing else. I guess I am just going to have to wait until it gets much colder to find anything out.