Aug 27, 2010 at 2:02 pm #1262706
Travis LeannaBPL Member
I've been very happy with my Exos 58 that I got more than a year ago. Its comfortable and light, and can hold all my gear.
Recently, I had been noticing that one of two things was happening. Either my pack was getting bigger, or my kit was getting smaller. I figured it was the latter of the two.
So, I decided it was time to look for a smaller pack. I opted for a Talon 44 which I got yesterday. I packed up my 3-season kit with two days worth of food and a bit of water. Everything fit very nicely, with just a bit of room left so I could do a week-long or winter trip.
Here's the point where I was certain I had done the right thing in getting a smaller pack: I opened up my Exos 58, and almost literally dropped my fully loaded Talon 44 right inside. With room to spare.
As soon as I can be certain that the Talon will be comfortable to hike long distances in, my Exos will be up on gear swap.Aug 27, 2010 at 4:57 pm #1641085
Steven HanlonBPL Member
@asciibaronLocale: Mid Atlantic
i'm packing for a quick overnight 26 mile trip. my McHale Chasm is truly that, a chasm. small packs are uncomfortable for me, so i use the compression straps and pack vertically. it's so tempting to fill that extra space, isn't it.
i have decided to bring a book, not sure WHERE i'm going to put it. in this void over here, or that void over there. hahah :)Aug 28, 2010 at 10:29 am #1641215
Jim MacDiarmidBPL Member
For a 5 day/4 night trip, I'm going to be carrying 15lbs less in total pack weight (I didn't know what 'baseweight' was back then so this is food + gear) than I did on my first overnight getting back into backpacking 2 years ago. If you figure in skin out the difference probably jumps to 18 pounds due to trading boots for trail runners.
I'll feel like my kit has fully evolved when it only takes 30 minutes to pack for a trip because my gear closet is as UL as my gear kit.Aug 28, 2010 at 2:30 pm #1641238
Dale WambaughBPL Member
@dwambaughLocale: Pacific Northwest
I know my kit has evolved when:
There are fewer items
I'm thinking about it less
I'm enjoying the hike more
Lower cost (that is a dreaming wish)Aug 28, 2010 at 4:00 pm #1641251
I've found my trips to be getting longer and my pack heavier as I want to carry what I need without resupply for two weeks or more. I just got back from an 18 day trip and decided to take a couple more books and alot more food than usual, like apples, an avocado, a loaf of bread, some eggs, etc.
The old saying, "The more experienced you become, the lighter your pack", doesn't really apply in all cases. I find the more time I spend outdoors, the more I want to bring out with me.Aug 28, 2010 at 4:04 pm #1641252
I had to get my base load to be pretty light so that I can carry it and also the 30-40 pounds worth of camera gear. We have to keep our priorities straight.
–B.G.–Aug 28, 2010 at 4:11 pm #1641256
Or my 40 lbs of food.Aug 28, 2010 at 4:24 pm #1641258
Hmmm, 40 pounds of food for 18 days? That seems a touch on the heavy side.
For summer trips, I normally pack about 1.5-1.6 pounds of food per day, and then I return with leftovers. On a recent trip, I packed only 4.5 pounds of food for the first six days (before resupply), and there was still a pound or more of it left.
–B.G.–Aug 28, 2010 at 5:03 pm #1641270
I like to eat, obviously. Fresh fruit, Tasty Bite meals(they are heavy), dates, raisins, walnuts, 3 lbs of cheese, etc etc. Walk. Collapse. Eat. Walk. Collapse . . . .etc.Aug 28, 2010 at 6:23 pm #1641275
Alex HBPL Member
@abhittLocale: southern appalachians or desert SW
"I opted for a Talon 44 which I got yesterday. "
Travis, what happened to the Swift dude?Aug 28, 2010 at 8:50 pm #1641290
I want to hike with Walter! Add 2lbs of coffee and we're set.Aug 28, 2010 at 9:41 pm #1641298
Jeffrey KucheraBPL Member
@frankenfeetLocale: Great Lakes
I knew my kit had evolved when packing it up was no longer a chore.Aug 28, 2010 at 11:00 pm #1641305
Many years ago when I carried a traditional load, I kept a 50-pound scale in the trunk of my car so that I could a last-minute weighing of my pack.
Now I still keep a scale in the trunk of my car, but it is a 25-pound scale.
–B.G.–Aug 29, 2010 at 10:20 am #1641354
Elliott WolinBPL Member
@ewolinLocale: Hampton Roads, Virginia
Jeffrey hit on it…I just realized I too no longer have to carefully pack my backpack so that everything will fit, or just barely fit, like I had to in the good old days.
Now I just sort of put things in according to a general plan, then ponder whether I should buy a smaller/lighter pack (but since I'm so cheap I never do it, so this is a regular occurrence).
Way back when I would regularly ponder whether I needed a larger/heavier pack.Aug 29, 2010 at 12:36 pm #1641383
Travis LeannaBPL Member
I still have the Swift, and I do like it for overnighters. However, when I start doing week-long outings, the framed packs are more comfortable for me.Aug 29, 2010 at 1:09 pm #1641389
I knew I was doing something right when I noticed my laptop, it's case, cord, and an external hard drive is heavier than gear and food I need to survive for a week.Aug 29, 2010 at 3:50 pm #1641413
Because your wallet is empty!
Actually in all seriousness, I too have noticed a change. I can hike faster, further, and longer than I used to when covering the same ground as I did in previous years.Aug 29, 2010 at 3:55 pm #1641414
@thedanarchistLocale: Hampton Roads, VA
After barely getting everything inside your new, lighter, smaller pack, you eventually move your sleeping bag and jacket to larger stuff sacks to help fill out the same pack.Sep 3, 2010 at 11:03 am #1642823
"I had to get my base load to be pretty light so that I can carry it and also the 30-40 pounds worth of camera gear. We have to keep our priorities straight."
I'm glad I'm not the only one… though I got my camera kit down to under 20 pounds by sticking almost entirely to a 4×5 instead of a bulky digital SLR ;)Sep 3, 2010 at 11:07 am #1642825
The weight and bulk of two DSLR bodies is insignificant compared to the weight and bulk of big lenses.
–B.G.–Sep 3, 2010 at 11:51 am #1642837
Yeah, that's one thing that I like about the smaller LF lenses — since they don't have barrels or moving parts, they're a lot smaller and lighter than lenses for SLRs. Of course, the down side is that they take a lot longer to shoot with, but you can't win 'em all :)Sep 8, 2010 at 5:47 am #1643860
John DonewarBPL Member
@newtonLocale: Southeastern Texas
It is when you realize that you are selling the lightweight gear that you bought earlier because you have replaced it with lighter weight gear.
NewtonSep 8, 2010 at 6:49 am #1643873
Rog TallblokeBPL Member
@tallblokeLocale: DON'T LOOK DOWN!!
I'll be glad when mine has evolved enough to have grown legs and follow me around.Oct 18, 2010 at 4:01 am #1655538
Benen HuntleyBPL Member
@benenLocale: South Australia
I'll know my pack has evolved when my wife and I have a combined base weight under 20 pounds…and then again for under 10 pounds but I can't see the latter happening for a long time.Oct 22, 2010 at 9:17 pm #1657207
@pittsburghLocale: Bay Area
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