Aug 10, 2010 at 2:09 am #1262081
This is my first time on this forum but I was thinking of getting a WM Kodiak MF sleeping bag.
Does anyone have any experiences with this bag?
Good or bad?
I'm about 5 foot 9 and build slim but since I need it primarily for high altitude mountaineering, and would be sleeping inside it wearing my down suit often, I thought it would be useful to get this bigger fitting bag?
As I'm from a country that doesn't sell this bag I would have to buy it online without being able to try it on first…
Or would a different bag be better?
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!!!
Thank you very much!!!Aug 10, 2010 at 5:41 am #1636270
That will be way too much bag for you. I have a Lynx (long), which is very spacious for me (6' 160lb) and allows me to wear a down jacket inside without killing the bag's loft.
Assuming you weigh 140lb or so, I suggest the Antelope or Lynx in a 6' bag for you. That will be quite roomy and warm, with space for clothes inside. I am toasty in my Lynx at 0F with just a base layer, and have no qualms about taking it to Alaksa.Aug 10, 2010 at 5:54 am #1636272
@cschaezLocale: Orange County
I'm gonna have to agree with Philip on this. The Kodiak is a great bag, but if you're slim, i think you'll be fin with an antelope or lynx's cut (Kodiak has a 67" shoulder girth, vs 62" for Antelope and Lynx). I'm 5'11", 230+ and have an old 6' Apache. I've never had real trouble with the girth, and that only has a 59" shoulder. That in mind, I'd probably push you into the Antelope or Lynx. I'm more Antelope minded though, since the antelope is rated to +5F, but weighs a full 8 oz less than the Kodiak. You get that extra efficiency with the Lynx too, but then you're adding another 3 oz over the Kodiak that you probably don't need if you were looking for a 0 degree bag in the first place. On the other hand, it all depends on what temps you're actually going down to.Aug 10, 2010 at 6:35 am #1636278
Thank you for your help guys!!!
Really appriciate it!!!
I would need a 0 degree bag, at the least, so I guess the Lynx would be the best option!!
Or any other suggestions for 0 or -5 degree bags?
How would maybe MH Phantom 0 compare?
Is the Lynx worth the extra money and weight?
Thank you again!!!Aug 10, 2010 at 8:36 am #1636314
The Antelope is warmer than the MH Phantom. Those bags are famously optimistic in thier temp ratings.
I think you'll find the Lynx money well spent. The warmth is incredible for only 3lb.Aug 10, 2010 at 10:33 am #1636365
Lynx it is then!!!I think I'll be really happy and warm in it!!!
Any last advice on perhaps getting the GWS instead of the MF??
Thank you again!!!Aug 10, 2010 at 1:31 pm #1636448
@ken_bennettLocale: southeastern usa
I have an Antelope. I'm 6-2 and weigh 210 pounds, and have plenty of room inside the bag to drape my down jacket over my torso.Aug 11, 2010 at 4:50 am #1636677
Their MF is very weather resistant as well as breathable. I would only consider the GWS of you're going to use this bag with a tarp where you need extra weather protection. In a tent the GWS can actually keep you wet by trapping body moisture.Aug 11, 2010 at 7:40 am #1636701
When you say you will be sleeping in a down suit are you talking about one of these?
If so, everyone above me may not have taken that into account when recommending a size.
You should be able to determine the loft of the down suit and then factor that into your body dimensions, then look at bag dimensions and size accordingly. Or you should ask the group you are going with what they recommend for sleeping bags over down suits.Aug 11, 2010 at 8:35 am #1636719
Thanks again for your help and time guys!!!
That would actually be the case!! That's why I initially thought the Kodiak might be a good choice.
I did speak with the group I'm going with but all they recommended was getting a 0 degree bag, WM or MH, and then sleep wearing our down clothing inside it to save on weight.
I will check back with them!!! Thank you!!!
Anyone have any experience with sleeping in these types of suits inside bags??
Thank you again!!! You guys are all very helpful!!!Aug 12, 2010 at 3:28 am #1636949
Hey guys – very glad I stumbled across this thread ! I've just made a hefty deposit on a WM Antelope bag. I'm 5'8 – 5'9 so I opted for the shorty version. Have I bought too little a bag ? Should I see if I can swap for a longer (reg size) bag ? BTW – I'm not looking at wearing my down jacket. I'm 200 lbs + (yes, I'm a chubby)and I sleep warm. I'll also be using a silk liner – more for keeping the bag cleaner. Please help. Regards, Charlie.Aug 12, 2010 at 4:15 am #1636953
Get the regular length. The short WM bags say 5' 6" and they mean it.
Girth wise you might be OK – it's not a very slim bag like an Apache or Ultralite. It depends how much room you like.Aug 12, 2010 at 3:04 pm #1637077
@ken_bennettLocale: southeastern usa
Yes, I would think it's too short. My wife is 5-4 and found the Regular length Ultralight bag to be just right. Besides, with a winter bag I like to have extra length to stuff things in the bottom so they don't freeze.Aug 12, 2010 at 11:51 pm #1637190
Thanks guys ! I did get the regular – they had one in stock ! Which is great for me – the supplier neglected to inform me the bag I had paid a deposit on WASN'T EVEN IN THE COUNTRY !!!!(I live in Melbourne, Australia). Man, was I steamed when I found that out. The supplier said on Monday that they were shipping it today. Thursday came ; no bag. Very sorry – we're shipping it today …. Spoke to the guy at the gear store – after I had swapped ; he informed me of the earlier bag's situ. Sorry if I've hijacked the thread – it just came out…. Will be giving the bag a test on an overnight this weekend ! Regards, Charlie.
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